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Re: all major US carriers received text messages overnight that appear to have been sent around Valentine's Day 2019


From: Jim Stapleton <stapletonj () pdx edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2019 13:04:50 -0800

It doesn't seem to be simply a matter of backlogged messages finally going
out. My friend replied to the mystery messages received from me and I
thought she was accidentally responding on the wrong thread. Her texts
seemed spontaneous and disjointed which is why I assumed she was on the
wrong thread. When we talked about it, it became clear she thought she was
responding to me and sent me a screenshot of the messages she was replying
to. I keep a copy of every message so I was able to locate the point in
time in the past where this dialog happened and found the 2/14 timestamps.
But here's the thing. She had interacted with me correctly at the time back
on 2/14. The message did not get stuck and undelivered. This was a resend
of a set of completed messages.

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:

On Fri, 8 Nov 2019, Jared Mauch wrote:
I run mailing lists.  I’ve had times where I find something stuck in
the system and instead of just deleting it, I actually try to make sure
it goes out based on the original intent.  This has resulted in me
sending out e-mails a year or two later at times.

Ok, you run mailing lists mostly on an amatuer (personal, unpaid) basis.

Every commercial organization delivering customer records should have a
record retention/archive schedule.  Holding on to customer data longer
than necessary for business purposes is just increasing your liability
when something goes wrong.  And it always goes wrong.

Many tech startup companies never think about record retention schedules,
or their privacy policy says 'indefinitely', which means the lawyer wrote
something down in the policy but no one really thought about it.

Western Union learned that lesson with telegrams a hundred years ago.
Tech firms keep re-learning old lessons, the hard way.


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