Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

["Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." <amitchell () isipp com>]

> What exactly is this "basic internet research"? I thought the big problem is that they are trivially capable of 
> covering their tracks.

There is always a money trail.  Always.  Because the whole point of these calls/sms messages is to get money out of 
you.  And the money trail almost always provides a nexus to the U.S. (or whatever country you are in).

In the case of spam calls, you do have to get a bit creative (and actually interact with the spammers on the 
phone...ewwww), to try to get them to give up on whose behalf they are working.  In the case of text message spam, it's 
often much easier because there will often be a link to a website, which, yeah, is likely a front for another website, 
but hey, if you are part of NANOG, following those trails should be trivially easy.

In the case of the outfit that just coughed up the $1000 to me, it was a text message spam that was ostensibly about 
one product, but the url in the text message actually forwarded through two intermediate urls to land on a site hawking 
a completely unrelated product - no big surprise there  (this was nice because I was also able to accuse them of 
violating laws about misleading advertising ;-) ).  Even with whois basically being useless now in terms of figuring 
out who is behind stuff, it was pretty easy to figure out who exactly stood to profit from my buying what was 
advertised on the landing site.

As it happened, when I contacted them, they (rather surprisingly) referred me to their lawyer - which turned out to be 
great because he understood immediately the predicament they were in. :~)

Anne

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Anne P. Mitchell, Attorney at Law
Dean of Cyberlaw & Cybersecurity, Lincoln Law School
CEO/President, SuretyMail Email Reputation Certification
Author: Section 6 of the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 (the Federal anti-spam law)
Legislative Consultant, GDPR, CCPA (CA) & CCDPA (CO) Compliance Consultant
Board of Directors, Denver Internet Exchange
Former Counsel: Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)