Re: Is there *currently* a shortage of IPv4 addresses?

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

We got a new block from ARIN 12-23-2019 19:40:59.  I remember many that
were on the list for months to a few years that also got allocated that
week.

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On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 5:31 PM Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf () gmail com> wrote:

> > On Aug 4, 2020, at 1:01 PM, Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
> >
> > The only other option then becomes the secondary transfer markets, where
> costs to acquire v4 space are much higher than what direct allocations from
> the RIRs used to be.
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:35 PM Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. <
> amitchell () isipp com> wrote:
> > > I know that a shortage of IPv4 addresses has been anticipated for quite
> some time (literally decades), however, is there a shortage *right now*?
> > > I ask, because Liquid Web is using it as an excuse to raise their
> prices:
> > > "We're contacting you today to inform you of a change to your account.
> As you may know, the global shortage of IPv4 addresses (
> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/ipv4-run-out) continues to
> impact web hosting companies around the world. ... Effective August 31st,
> we will be updating our per IPv4 address price to $2.00 per IP."
>
> For an overview of open market pricing, you might look at
> https://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-pricing/.
>
> You may also find this talk interesting in context:
> Mythic Beasts, which is a data center operator in London, gave a talk to
> the IPv6 Operations Working Group in the IETF two years ago, and used these
> slides:
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/101/slides/slides-101-v6ops-ipv6-only-hosting-00.
> If you look through them, you'll find a discussion of the address shortage
> and what impact it has on pricing from them.
>
> In short, Mythic Beasts find that IPv6 service is virtually free, and
> don't charge for it. They find that when a customer pushes them to also
> give IPv4 addressing, they have to charge, as it costs them, and they find
> that making the customer engineer explain to his/her bean counters why the
> need it often has the effect of convincing the company to use IPv6
> externally.
> https://image.slidesharecdn.com/ipv6atmythicbeasts-networkshop44-160323133644/95/ipv6-at-mythic-beasts-networkshop44-19-638.jpg?cb=1458740321
>
> In short, yes, there is a shortage of IPv4 addresses, and the net result
> is both an increase in price and an increase in network complexity.