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Re: 60ms cross continent
From: Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat () nuclearcat com>
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2020 09:51:41 +0300
On 2020-07-07 08:32, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
BPSK 1/2 is quite extreme. In my case it was 32APSK 8/9 at 36Mhz transponder (yes it was quite large antenna), ~140Mbit, so switching to 1/2 BPSK will make it"no clouds" is overstating the effect somewhat. I've operated a number of mission critical Ku band based systems that met four nines of overall link uptime. The operational effect of a cloud that isn't an active downpour of rain is negligible. Continual overcast of clouds is not much of a problem at all, it's active rain rate in mm/hour and its statistical likelihood, climate parameters of the location. Yes, during rain fade events, current generation VSAT modems will drop all the way down to BPSK 1/2 code rate to maintain a link, with corresponding effect on real world throughput in kbps each direction, but entirely dropping a link is rare.
~16Mbit/s, which is pretty useless for telco purposes.For corporate, end-users, with QoS - it can be ok, but still depends on climatic zone. Remember, it is not downlink only issue, but uplink too. And depends on antenna elevation angle
as well.Even for end-user it is not fun to have 1/10 of capacity, most likely means unable to do video conferencing anymore, for few days, just because it is few rainy days. And as Ku is often covering specific regions, often it means rainy days for most transponder customers. This is why in zones closer to equator, with their long-term monsoon, C-Band was only option,
no idea about now.
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- Re: 60ms cross continent Paul Nash (Jul 08)
- Re: 60ms cross continent Mark Tinka (Jul 08)
- Re: 60ms cross continent Denys Fedoryshchenko (Jul 08)
- Re: 60ms cross continent Mike Lyon (Jul 08)
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