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Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks
From: Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:01:18 -0500
Yes, but does that matter? If there's extra capacity on the link, Netflix runs at full rate. If there is not extra capacity Netflix rates down to prevent congestion. While streaming video (including Netflix) uses a lot of bandwidth, I don't see Netflix causing congestion. It gets a bad wrap, and I think that's unfair because Netflix is actually really efficient and really conscientious compared to others.
On 3/20/2020 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Some of the pipes Netflix goes through is also used by other services that aren't as adaptable.----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From: *"Blake Hudson" <blake () ispn net> *To: *nanog () nanog org *Sent: *Friday, March 20, 2020 8:32:45 AM *Subject: *Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks On 3/19/2020 12:22 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > On 19/Mar/20 18:07, Matt Hoppes wrote: >> Agreed... 720 or 1080 Netflix will work just as fine as 4K for the >> next month or two. > Well, the article claims "Drop stream quality from HD". That means 4K, > 1080p and 720p. > > If you have an OCA on your network, how does this encourage consumers to > use the "extra bandwidth" for anything else? > > Are we assuming we know how consumers want to spend their time now? > > Mark. Across several eyeball networks I'm not seeing any noticeable increase in peak (95%) demand between now and January. Since Netflix automatically scales down data rates in the event of congestion, the only thing I foresee forcing Netflix to reduce data rates [ahead of any congestion] would accomplish is causing excess link capacity to go unused (wasted). This sounds like a policy decision made without a technical argument... e.g. not a data driven decision, but a decision made out of fear or panic.
Current thread:
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks, (continued)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Matt Hoppes (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Alexandre Petrescu (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mark Tinka (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mike Bolitho (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Matt Hoppes (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Jeff Shultz (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mark Tinka (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mark Tinka (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Blake Hudson (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mike Hammett (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Blake Hudson (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mike Hammett (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Tom Beecher (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mel Beckman (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Tom Beecher (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Matt Hoppes (Mar 19)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mike Hammett (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Rich Kulawiec (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mark Tinka (Mar 20)
- RE: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Keith Medcalf (Mar 20)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Alexandre Petrescu (Mar 21)
- Re: COVID-19 vs. our Networks Mark Tinka (Mar 21)