Re: Chairman Pai Proposes Mandating STIR/SHAKEN To Combat Robocalls

[bzs () theworld com]

Point taken.

On March 8, 2020 at 15:06 damian () google com (Damian Menscher) wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 2:18 PM <bzs () theworld com> wrote:
>
>
>     It's really not analogous to most of the mass attacks on the net
>     because the entire telco system is built to know who is using it in
>     great detail.
>
>
> You don't think transit providers bill their customers?
>
> The analogy holds surprisingly well.  Any transit provider (or other ISP) could
> trivially identify their customers who are launching spoofed attacks, simply by
> looking for a high volume of SYN packets, or a high diversity of source ASNs,
> or several other signals.  But instead they pretend it's "hard", just as the
> telcos do.  In reality, the only thing that's hard about it is the policy
> decision of turning away money.
>
> Damian
>
>
>     Have you ever made a billable call and *not* been billed for it?
>
>     If you're getting the same "Hi, this is <NAME> from card holder
>     services" calls like everyone else, or auto warranty etc etc etc, that
>     means they're making millions of calls per day, possibly hundreds of
>     millions...per day.
>
>     No one makes many millions of voice calls without paying the telcos.
>
>     If you don't believe me try it. You'll have a swat team at your home
>     or office (or possibly a telco sales person) probably after just
>     hundreds of calls and you'll be blocked, shut down.
>
>     The telcos are making a lot of money on these calls.
>
>     They know exactly who is making them because they know exactly who
>     they're sending that bill to and their payment history.
>
>     Which primarily leaves the question of why this Kabuki theater by the
>     FCC et al pretending as if it's some vast, uncontrollable evil like
>     the corona virus etc.?
>
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