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Re: alternative to voip gateways


From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 14:06:04 +0200

Thinking out of the box, why not implement a WISP setup using wifi? This
kind of gear is more accessible to normal IT staff.

Voice can be implemented by VoIP using Wifi too.

Regards
Baldur


søn. 3. maj 2020 07.22 skrev Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>:

The huts or cabins whatever you want to call them,  are right behind
the admin building at entrance, so first is about 300 meters and the
furtherest  is just under 1 mile

Cost will be an issue, Im sure I will have no problems if I have to
install a full rack of gateways and another full of dslams if it costs
150K, over something 1/5th the size in one rack that will cost 200k -
since the company is not charging them for internet or voice.

On 5/2/20, Jeremy Austin <jhaustin () gmail com> wrote:
What’s the average loop length? Grandstream is probably OK to 5+ kfeet
but
you will lose CID before that.

As the low cost option don’t expect them to be trouble-free (or have
particularly good vendor support), but they might work in your
application
if cheap is what makes sense.

My $.02

Jeremy Austin

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 10:11 PM Andrey Slastenov <a.slastenov () gmail com>
wrote:

Look at MSAN solution. Like Huawei UA5000 or similar solutions from
other
vendors.


Regards,
Andrey

2 мая 2020 г., в 07:21, Nick Edwards <nick.z.edwards () gmail com>
написал(а):

I'm looking at a new sister company we just took over, their remote
village has 1700 analogue phone lines to the workers huts, but they go
nowhere past the MDF.

The office runs voip, now i'm told i have to get phones to the workers
because the <lots of explicit words> AKA previous owners of that
business  stopped the build when they ran into financial problems.

So my plan is to utilize the existing many miles worth of copper
pairs.

I'm looking at throwing them into Versa Dslams that use pppoe pass
through, throw in a mikoTik 1036 as pppoe server, and we got spare
R710 i can use as radius server, and by my limited knowledge this
works.

OK data done, but... now all those pots out lines need to go somewhere
that can handle 1700 or more lines, I am looking at either grandstream
48 port FXS gateways or sangoma vega 50 ports (which Ill use as 48 so
theres a 1:1 match with dslams) the vega 3050 probably wont be used
because they are more than twice the price of grandstream.

But this all results in a sh1te load of 48 port gateways (power is not
a concern), but wondering if there is another solution that is more
cost effective? Seems the regular NEC's Siemens and so on might have
an option but I can imagine it will be far more expensive than a bunch
of individual gateways.

This project is in my mind workable, but i've not done such a thing on
a large scale.
Those who have experience in this field care to chime in? is my method
acceptable or not for such a project size?

most pbx's I've done are only few hundred analogue lines where
gateways are more suited and definitely more cost effective, at all
our locations we use freepbx which works perfectly, and we know the
beefyness of the box we'll need to install to handle this load, thats
not a problem if we go down the gateway method.

thoughts?

--
Jeremy Austin
jhaustin () gmail com



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