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Re: plea for comcast/sprint handoff debug help


From: Alex Band <alex () nlnetlabs nl>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 21:14:16 +0100


On 28 Oct 2020, at 16:58, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:

tl;dr:

comcast: does your 50.242.151.5 westin router receive the announcement
of 147.28.0.0/20 from sprint's westin router 144.232.9.61?

tl;dr: diagnosed by comcast.  see our short paper to be presented at imc
      tomorrow https://archive.psg.com/200927.imc-rp.pdf

lesson: route origin relying party software may cause as much damage as
      it ameliorates

randy

To clarify this for the readers here: there is an ongoing research experiment where connectivity to the RRDP and rsync 
endpoints of several RPKI publication servers is being purposely enabled and disabled for prolonged periods of time. 
This is perfectly fine of course.

While the resulting paper presented at IMC is certainly interesting, having relying party software fall back to rsync 
when RRDP is unavailable is not a requirement specified in any RFC, as the paper seems to suggest. In fact, we argue 
that it's actually a bad idea to do so:

https://blog.nlnetlabs.nl/why-routinator-doesnt-fall-back-to-rsync/

We're interested to hear views on this from both an operational and security perspective.

-Alex

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