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Re: SRm6 (was:SRv6)


From: James Bensley <jwbensley+nanog () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 18:30:45 +0200



On 17 September 2020 11:05:24 CEST, Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 at 11:03, James Bensley <jwbensley+nanog () gmail com>
wrote:

MPLSoUDP lacks transport engineering features  like explicit paths,
FRR LFA and FRR rLFA, assuming only a single IP header is used for the
transport abstraction [1]. If you want stuff like TI-LFA (I assume this
is supported in SRm6 and SRv6, but I'm not familiar with these, sorry
if that is a false assumption) you need additional transport headers or
a stack of MPLS labels encapped in the UDP header and then you're back
to square one.

One of us has confusion about what MPLSoUDP is. I don't run it, so
might be me.

SPORT == Entropy (so non-cooperating transit can balance)
DPORT == 6635 (NOT label)
Payload = MPLS label(s)

Whatever MPLS can do MPLSoUDP can, by definition, do. It is just
another MPLS point-to-point adjacency after the MPLSoUDP
abstraction/tunnel.

Nope, we have the same understanding. But the email I was responding to was talking about using MPLSoUDP for service 
label encapsulation *only*, not transport & services labels:


 If you want an IPv6 underlay for a network offering VPN services 

And what's wrong again with MPLS over UDP to accomplish the very same with simplicity ? 

MPLS - just a demux label to a VRF/CE
UDP with IPv6 header plain and simple 

+ minor benefit: you get all of this with zero change to shipping hardware and software ... Why do we need to go via 
decks of SRm6 slides and new wave of protocols extensions ???


Cheers,
James.


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