Re: Malicious SS7 activity and why SMS should never by used for 2FA

[Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>]

Bill,

SMS for 2FA is not fine. I recommend you study the issue in more depth. It’s not just me who disagrees with you:

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2016/08/nist_is_no_long.html

 -mel

On Apr 18, 2021, at 6:31 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 6:00 PM Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> wrote:
Anecdotal: With the prior consent of the DID holders, I have successfully ported peoples' numbers using nothing more 
than a JPG scan of a signature that looks like an illegible 150 dpi black and white blob, pasted in an image editor on 
top of a generic looking 'phone bill'.

Hi Eric,

SMS for 2FA is fine. It's understood that a single authentication
factor is not secure enough; that's why you use two. SMS for 1FA is
hugely risky and should not be used for anything important, like
money. SMS for a password reset is an example of 1FA -- your ability
to receive SMS messages at the required phone number becomes the sole
authentication factor needed to access the account.

If the adversary has captured your password -and- reprogrammed your
phone number, what makes you think they lack the wherewithal to have
captured the shared secret used to generate your TOTP code?

Regards,
Bill Herrin

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