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Re: "Tactical" /24 announcements


From: Jason Pope <boards188 () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:09:55 -0500

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 9:41 AM Hank Nussbacher <hank () interall co il>
wrote:
On 12/08/2021 17:59, William Herrin wrote:
If you prune the routes from the Routing Information Base instead, for
any widely accepted size (i.e. /24 or shorter netmask) you break the
Internet.

How does this break the Internet?  I would think it would just result in
sub-optimal routing (provided there is a covering larger prefix) but
everything should continue to work.  Clue me in, please.

A originates 10.0.0.0/16 to paid transit C
B originates 10.0.1.0/24 also to paid transit C
C offers both routes to D. D discards 10.0.1.0/24 from the RIB based
on same-next-hop
You peer with A and D. You receive only 10.0.0.0/16 since A doesn't
originate 10.0.1.0/24 and D has discarded it.
You send packets for 10.0.1.0/24 to A (the shortest path for
10.0.0.0/16), stealing A's paid transit to C to get to B.
Unless A filters C-bound packets purportedly from 10.0.1.0/24. B
doesn't currently transit for A so from B's perspective that's not an
allowed path. In which case, your path to 10.0.1.0/24 is black holed.

D broke the Internet. If packets from you reach A at all, they do so
through an unpermitted path.

Regards,
Bill Herrin

Ok, I apologize, but I have some dumb questions (because I don't BGP
anymore):

1) I assume in the scenario that A "owns" (ARIN assignment) 10.0.0.0/16 and
if B has a /24 assignment out of the block that A "owns", shouldn't that
mean that B has a business relationship with A and some kind of direct
connectivity to A?

2) If "no", then why is B using a /24 out of A's block? If A sold or gave
the block to B without a connectivity agreement, then A should break up
their announcements appropriately to carve the /24 out of their
announcement, right?

3) If "yes", then the connectivity wouldn't be broken, right?

TIA for the tutoring and bearing with me.

Regards,
Jason K Pope

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