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Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits]
From: Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:50:36 -0700 (PDT)
----- On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patrick () ianai net wrote: Hi,
On Aug 18, 2021, at 5:00 PM, Matthew Walster <matthew () walster org> wrote:On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, 21:37 Sabri Berisha, <sabri () cluecentral net> wrote: ----- On Aug 18, 2021, at 2:46 AM, Steve Lalonde steve () enta net wrote: Hi,We always use PeeringDB data and refuse to peer with networks not in PeeingDBYou are aware that PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks, right? It is most certainly not a single source of truth.Would you care to expand on this?I am extremely interested in hearing about this as well. Specific examples would be useful.
Of course! Including headers to show authenticity. I was very amused by the explanation of the "chicken and egg" problem. Who's creating that? The networks who refuse to peer with non-peeringdb registered ASNs, or peeringdb who won't recognize ASNs that are not peering with anyone because nobody wants to peer with them because they are not registered in peeringdb because nobody wants to peer with them? You get the idea. Thanks, Sabri AS31064 Return-Path: grizz () peeringdb com Received: from mail.cluecentral.net (LHLO mail.cluecentral.net) (195.16.84.32) by mail.cluecentral.net with LMTP; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cluecentral.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CED64001EF for <sabri () cluecentral net>; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.cluecentral.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.cluecentral.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3TLvVaNdjHGA for <sabri () cluecentral net>; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 01:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ubersmith.peeringdb.com (ubersmith.peeringdb.com [107.6.74.106]) by mail.cluecentral.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B164001A9 for <sabri () cluecentral net>; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 01:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ubersmith.peeringdb.com (Postfix, from userid 48) id D8AF377C1A; Fri, 9 Oct 2015 04:46:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 04:46:29 -0400 To: Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net> From: support () peeringdb com Reply-To: support () peeringdb com Subject: Re: [#9192] [PeeringDB] User (sabri) Requesting Access (New Company - Cluecentral Inc) Message-ID: <1bac170d74e5d3702d3a28b237c87260 () ubersmith peeringdb com> Dear PeeringDB user, Registering with peeringDB and peering negotiations are sort of egg and chicken problem. We only want to have networks registered that already do have settlement free peering. After some basic checks it looks like you are only buying transit from 6939/Hurricane Electric, but are not connected to any Internet Exchange (e.g. AMS-IX/NL-ix) yet. Having said this, is it acceptable to you to wait until you have your 1st settlement free peering setup? If you already have existing peering sessions, please provide the following details to support your request for peeringdb access: Your AS number(s) Which IXP / facilities you are peering at Some of your peering partners (again AS numbers / name) Please send your answers to support () peeringdb com or reply to this ticket. Best regards, PeeringDB admin on Duty PeeringDB Listserv information: PeeringDB Announce: http://lists.peeringdb.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdb-announce PeeringDB Governance: http://lists.peeringdb.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdb-gov PeeringDB Technical: http://lists.peeringdb.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pdb-tech PeeringDB User Discuss: http://lists.peeringdb.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/user-discuss -- Florian Hibler <fhibler () peeringdb com> PeeringDB Administrator
Current thread:
- Setting sensible max-prefix limits Lars Prehn (Aug 18)
- Re: Setting sensible max-prefix limits Steve Lalonde (Aug 18)
- Re: Setting sensible max-prefix limits Denis Fondras (Aug 18)
- Re: Setting sensible max-prefix limits Lars Prehn (Aug 18)
- Re: Setting sensible max-prefix limits Sabri Berisha (Aug 18)
- Re: Setting sensible max-prefix limits Matthew Walster (Aug 18)
- PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Sabri Berisha (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Sabri Berisha (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Niels Bakker (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Rubens Kuhl (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Sabri Berisha (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Niels Bakker (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Randy Bush (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Matthew Walster (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Nick Hilliard (Aug 19)
- Re: Setting sensible max-prefix limits Denis Fondras (Aug 18)
- Re: PeerinDB refuses to register certain networks [was: Setting sensible max-prefix limits] Randy Bush (Aug 18)
- Re: Setting sensible max-prefix limits Steve Lalonde (Aug 18)