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Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle!


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2021 16:13:31 -0700

You just broke 99% of the smart television sets in people’s homes, unfortunately.

That will resolve itself over time, of course, as sets are replaced, but anyone with
a set that is more than ~3 years old is mostly unlikely to have IPv6 support in it and
the vendors are ALL universally terrible about updating firmware.

As much as I like the idea (and that if a sufficient number of providers were willing
to do so, it might just serve as a forcing function to get firmware updates done),
I wouldn’t hold my breath and I suspect where there are competitive alternatives,
such a notice would be a boon to the competition.

Owen


On Aug 31, 2021, at 15:15 , Mark Andrews <marka () isc org> wrote:

Force the traffic to these companies to use IPv6.  Advise your customers that
you are doing this, why you are doing this and what steps they need to take
to enable IPv6 on their equipment. Your customers can’t be in a worse position.

"Dear customer,
             if you want to reach … you will need to enable IPv6 support in
your home network.  The world ran out of enough IPv4 for everyone several years
back and we have been sharing IPv4 between customers to allow you to reach IPv4
only sites.  The afore mentioned companies are now blocking IPv4 connections from
ISPs that have to share IPv4 addresses.  To give you a better service we are
blocking IPv4 connections to these companies so you will get a more reliable service
over IPv6.

For instructions on how to enable IPv6 connectivity on you home router see this
page ….

If your home router does not support IPv6 you will need to upgrade it to one that does."

On 1 Sep 2021, at 06:36, Bryan Holloway <bryan () shout net> wrote:

Thanks, Owen ... good point.

Now hearing reports for these same prefixes with Disney+ too.

So the common denominators are:

HBO
Hulu
Netflix
Amazon Prime
Disney+

... there has _got_ to be some new-fangled DB somewhere. This all started in the last month or so.

All of our RR objects, whois, DNS is solid ... dehr?

Fun times.


On 8/31/21 9:16 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:

[snip]

Geolocate and VPN or Not are often kind of tied to the same kinds of reporting services and it may well be that 
whatever provider HBO is using for one is also being used for the other.
Owen

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Mark Andrews, ISC
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PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka () isc org



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