RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

[John van Oppen <john () vanoppen com>]

Unless you have storage, you are using the utility for services.   It is no realistic to assume that they will do net 
metering forever, it simply does not allow them to fund the distribution network.

I honestly think the current rates for solar in-feed at places like Hawaiian electric are more fair to all parties, you 
get power at retail rates and send it back at about half the retail rate.   This encourages battery storage adoption 
and actually funds the distribution network.


From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+john=vanoppen.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Sabri Berisha
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:43 AM
To: Haudy Kazemi <kaze0010 () umn edu>
Cc: nanog <nanog () nanog org>
Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

----- On Feb 17, 2021, at 11:21 AM, nanog <nanog () nanog org<mailto:nanog () nanog org>> wrote:



Hi,
Using the sample bill on the GA power website you linked, I see a bottom line price of $76.17 for 606 kWh delivered to 
the customer. That is effectively 12.57 cents per kWh.

Utilities (both investor owned and coops) have a multitude of ways of hiding the effective price in a variety of fixed 
and variable fees not included in the nominal 'energy' fee. These include mandatory fixed connection fees and also fuel 
cost recovery fees that are tied to consumption.
Exactly. In a message earlier today which is held and presumably lost due to moderation, I shared screenshots of an 
actual bill of mine here in California.

Long story short, using that bill I show that I paid a grand total of $239.14 for 656.928 KwH of electricity. That 
makes 36.4 cents per KwH.

In addition to that, I also shared another bill, where I paid $2.63 for the privilige of providing the net with 31.993 
KwH of energy. That's right. My solar panels produced more power than I consumed and I still sponsored the crooks at 
PG&E.

Utility companies are worse than airlines when it comes to hidden fees and surcharges. They know we have no choice.

The only reason I want more solar panels is to give a bigger middle finger to PG&E. Nothing is a better motivator to go 
green than to see PG&E go bankrupt. It's a sad state of affairs when the disgust for the utility company's deceptive 
practices somehow outweighs the need to save the planet. Yet here we are.

Thanks,

Sabri