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Re: Parler
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 19:52:22 -0800
On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 6:58 PM Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote:
Private businesses can engage in prior restraint all they want.
Hi Matt, You've conflated a couple ideas here. Public accommodation laws were passed in the wake of Jim Crow to the effect that any business which provides services to the public must provide services to all the public. Courts have found such laws constitutional. Not to mention the plethora of common-law precedent in this area. You can set rules and enforce them but those rules can't arbitrarily exclude whole classes of people nor may they be applied capriciously. Businesses which post the sign that starts, "we reserve the right," are quite mistaken. If a customer is rejected and removed without good cause and thereby injured, a business can find itself on the losing end of a lawsuit. "No shirt, no shoes, no service," on the other hand, is entirely enforceable so long as that enforcement is consistent. The legal term "prior restraint" is even more narrowly focused. It refers only to blocking publication on the grounds that the material to be published is false or otherwise harmful. The government is almost never allowed to do so. Instead, remedies are available only after the material is published. With private organizations it gets much more complicated. No organization is compelled to publish anything. But then section 230 of the DMCA comes in and says: if you exercise editorial control over what's published then you are liable for any unlawful material which is published. More precisely, common law precedent says you're liable for what you publish. Section 230 grants immunity to organizations who _do not_ exercise editorial control. But what is editorial control? The courts have been all over the place on that one. Regards, Bill Herrin Regards, Bill Herrin -- Hire me! https://bill.herrin.us/resume/
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