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Re: A crazy idea


From: "tim () pelican org" <tim () pelican org>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2021 16:12:52 +0100 (BST)

On Monday, 19 July, 2021 14:04, "Stephen Satchell" <list () satchell net> said:

The allocation of IPv6 space with prefixes shorter than /64 is indeed a
consideration for bigger administrative domains like country
governments, but on the other end, SOHO customers would be happy with
/96, /104 or even /112 allocations if they could get them.  (Just how
many light bulbs, fridges, toasters, doorbells, phones, &c does SOHOs
have?)  I would *not* like to see "us" make the same mistake with IPv6
that was made with IPv4, handing out large blocks of space like so many
pieces of M&M or Skittles candy.

Nay, nay, and thrice nay.  Don't think in terms of addresses for IPv6, think in terms of subnets.  I can't stress this 
enough, it's the big v4 to v6 paradigm shift - don't think about "how many hosts on this net", think about "how many 
nets".

It's potentially useful for SOHO users to have multiple subnets, particularly as they stick multiple devices in their 
home network that try to do PD from the upstream for each downstream function.  /56 for every SOHO is a 
fire-and-forget, you don't have to dick about with right-sizing anything, you don't have to evaluate requirements with 
the customer, you don't have to do all kinds of management system stuff to track who has what size, and it gives you 
some room for a couple of levels of hierarchy within the house.

Make all of the subnets /64s, and SLAAC etc Just Work too.

Wikipedia suggests a little short of 200M households in the US.  That's 28 bits of space to give a /56 to every 
household.  Let's assume ISPs are really bad at aggregation, so those bits are spread across multiple PoPs, multiple 
ISPs, etc, and we take 36 bits of space to actually allocate those.  (That's only in /56 in every 256 used, *lots* of 
room for sparse PoPs, sparse ISPs, etc).  Shift back 36 bits from a /56, we've used a /20 to number the entire US.

Same again for India.  3 of those for China.  It's all smaller from there for the rest of the world.  Maybe 100 or so 
/20s to number the entire world on the same plan.  There are a million /20s in the IPv6 address space.

We've got room to be sensible about assignments without repeating the IPv4 scarcity problem.

Cheers,
Tim.



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