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Re: WKBI #586, Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public


From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon () jmaimon com>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 10:57:44 -0500



Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:
I don’t see the difference between 6 and 7 usable addresses on all the /29s
in the world as actually making a significant impact on the usable lifespan of
IPv4.

Owen


This idea gets better each time I think about it. The changes and support required would typically be only local to customer/vendor and it can be useful in multiple contexts within a single entity as well.

Or how about this one. I can add VRRP failover to every customer prefix with zero negative impact to them by addressing the secondary with the all-zero address. Only I have to upgrade since the customer doesnt use or refer to that address ever. Now granted, using a FHRP protocol that didnt require any address at all in the subnet for the non-primary would give the same result. And maybe maybe maybe ICMP from the secondary might get dropped by non-updated customer.

How about customers who like to have redundant routers now only require an update to do it within /30, which within vendor relationship context, should it be standard long enough, they may very well require, and should a /29 cost more, the customer may very well prefer.

Getting an extra address out of a /29 and two instead of one out of /30 can be quite useful to each individual user and use of those prefixes.

Collectively, it may or may not extend IPv4 global resources. Probably not in any measurable way and possibly non existent, although it is conceivable that /30 would become usable enough that less /29's will be assigned, and the same for /29 lasting longer before requiring /28. Probably not much beyond that.

Its about getting more mileage from existing allocations, not really about making more allocations available.

And all thats needed to be done is to drop this ridiculous .0 for broadcast compatibility from standards.....why is this even controversial?

Joe


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