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Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge


From: Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 09:23:08 -0500

Imagine it's 2021. Over a decade ago the world started a transition from captive audio broadcast media from a single source towards unicast streaming from multiple sources. You operate an ISP network that was designed for a past era and you have been slow to keep up with your competitors or with the changing trends. Customers are not happy. Your customers don't understand. People don't understand. You are a cog in the machine that is causing resistance and see an opportunity to get paid twice for a single job. You won't get out of the way once paid, in fact you'll grasp at your position even harder to ensure that you will continue to get paid. You are SK Telecom.


On 10/18/2021 9:02 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Imagine it's 2008 and your AP is pushing out 3 mbps. Customers are all happy.  Suddenly, Netflix demands 10x what you're offering.  Customers are not happy.

Customers don't understand.  People don't understand. There are a million cogs in the machine and if the path of least resistance is to turn left, an ISP is going to turn left.

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On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 10:19 AM Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net> wrote:



    On 10/1/2021 8:48 AM, Sean Donelan wrote:
    > South Korean Internet service provider SK Broadband has sued
    Netflix
    > to pay for costs from increased network traffic and maintenance
    work
    > because of a surge of viewers to the U.S. firm's content, an SK
    > spokesperson said on Friday.
    > [...]
    > Last year, Netflix had brought its own lawsuit on whether it had
    any
    > obligation to pay SK for network usage, arguing Netflix's duty ends
    > with creating content and leaving it accessible. It said SK's
    expenses
    > were incurred while fulfilling its contractual obligations to
    Internet
    > users, and delivery in the Internet world is "free of charge as a
    > principle", according to court documents.
    > [...]
    >
    >
    
https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/skorea-broadband-firm-sues-netflix-after-traffic-surge-squid-game-2021-10-01/

    >
    >

    I'll never understand over how ISPs see content providers as the
    enemy
    (or a rival). The content is why ISPs have customers. Don't get upset
    when your customer uses the service that you sold them (in a way
    that is
    precisely in accordance with the expected usage)!

    Netflix, as an example, has even been willing to bear most of the
    cost
    with peering or bringing servers to ISPs to reduce the ISP's costs
    and
    improve the ISP customer's experience. It's about time Netflix played
    chicken with one of these ISPs and stopped offering service (or
    offered
    limited service) to the ISPs that try to extort them and other
    content
    providers: Sorry, your service provider does not believe in net
    neutrality and has imposed limitations on your Netflix experience.
    For a
    better Netflix experience, consider exploring one of these other
    nearby
    internet providers: x, y, z.


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