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Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022)
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 18:35:31 -0400 (EDT)
On Tue, 5 Apr 2022, Job Snijders wrote:
Are others jumping ship or planning to from ALTDB (no offense intended, and grateful for the service you've provided) and other non-auth IRRs like RADB due to networks like Tata announcing that they won't honor route objects created in non-authoratative IRR DBs after late last year and plan to ignore them entirely by late next year? i.e. From: https://lg.as6453.net/doc/cust-routing-policy.html Special note, deprecation of non-authoritative registries Please note that 'route' and 'route6' objects created after 2021-Aug-15 in non-authoritative registries like RADB, NTTCOM, ALTDB and others will not work. Objects created before that date will continue to work till 2023-Aug-15. It is recommended to create RPKI ROA objects instead. In rare cases if that's not possible, 'route' and 'route6' must be created in the authoritative registry - AfriNIC, APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, RIPE, RIPE, NIC.br or IDNIC.I very much appreciate Tata's efforts to strive to only use authoritive data when making BGP routing decisions; however the scope of their charter is of course confined to just Tata's own operations. Tata's routing policies affect only Tata's customer cone.
I'm (well, work is) a Tata customer. So their policy wrt which IRR's they'll honor objects in matters to me, and going forward, it makes no sense for us to create new objects in ALTDB or RADB...and those proxy registrations Kenneth created in ALTDB, if any of those networks are originated by Tata customers, I presume the new ALTDB objects won't cause Tata prefix-list filters to include those routes.
I just wonder if Tata is alone leading the charge to deprecate non-auth IRRs, or if there are other notable networks with similar policies?
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- TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) John Curran (Apr 02)
- Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) David Ratkay (Apr 03)
- 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Job Snijders via NANOG (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Kenneth Finnegan (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Jon Lewis (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Job Snijders via NANOG (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Jon Lewis (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Job Snijders via NANOG (Apr 04)
- Re: [nanog] Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Dan Mahoney (Gushi) (Apr 04)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 04)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Owen DeLong via NANOG (Apr 05)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 05)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Owen DeLong via NANOG (Apr 06)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 07)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Owen DeLong via NANOG (Apr 07)
- Re: [nanog] 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 John Curran (Apr 07)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Kenneth Finnegan (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Dan Mahoney (Gushi) (Apr 05)