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Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022)
From: "babydr DBA James W. Laferriere" <babydr () baby-dragons com>
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2022 16:20:15 -0800 (AKDT)
Hello Job , On Tue, 5 Apr 2022, Job Snijders via NANOG wrote: ...snip...
Your final paragraph hits directly on my situation , That is as soon as I can get my small network connected again via hardline connections again .I think there clearly is an industry-wide trend to move away from 'unsigned plain-text non-authoritative' datasets, towards better sources of truth such as the VRP data available through the RIR RPKI Trust Anchors. There are variances in how stakeholders implement this paradigm shift: some operators move towards wholesale ignorance of non-auth databases (like Tata); some operators use softer transition mechanisms (examples: what RIPE NCC did in lieu of RIPE-731, or how IRRd v4 in its default configuration magically makes RPKI-invalid IRR objects disappear). I think all of us recognize a need to declaw "third party" IRR databases like RADB and ALTDB ("declawing" meaning that it is not desirable that anyone can just register *anything*); on the other hand our community also has to be cognizant about there being parts of the Internet which are not squatting on anyone's numbers *and* also are not contracted to a specific RIR. Kind regards, Job
I am not a customer of ARIN except for one asn . I hold maintainership a couple of pre-arin /24's .And until a (imo) reasonable contract with pre-arin holders can be created AND a reasonable fund dispersement calculation with HARD Set $ values assigned , I will not be a Arin customer except for my one little ASN . Which when I was assigned that resource was just $100/yr , Imo a reasonable cost . that cost has now only gone up 50% , Again somewhat reasonable cost , BUT that cost going UP is of concern to my meager financial status .
I am greatly exasperated that I am not hearing about Public versions of RPKi repositories in the veign of ALTDB .
In other words a Publicly held and Volunteer based entity .Blast I wish I had the financial witheral to back such an enterprise . If I did it would remain totally vounteer & a not for profit & I'd really like it to be Voluntarilly funded by the Community .
I ask the Community why someone or some entity IS not coming forward and doing so ?
Sorry about the rambling . Twyl , JimL -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | James W. Laferriere | System Techniques | Give me VMS | | Network & System Engineer | 3237 Holden Road | Give me Linux | | jiml () system-techniques com | Fairbanks, AK. 99709 | only on AXP | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+
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- Re: [nanog] Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 Jon Lewis (Apr 04)
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- Re: [nanog] [nanog] Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - John Curran (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) John Gilmore (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) John Curran (Apr 04)
- RPKI adoption (was: Re: 2749 routes AT RISK ) John Curran (Apr 04)
- Re: RPKI adoption (was: Re: 2749 routes AT RISK ) Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Apr 05)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) babydr DBA James W. Laferriere (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Nick Hilliard (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Kenneth Finnegan (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Tom Beecher (Apr 04)
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- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Rubens Kuhl (Apr 04)
- Re: 2749 routes AT RISK - Re: TIMELY/IMPORTANT - Approximately 40 hours until potentially significant routing changes (re: Retirement of ARIN Non-Authenticated IRR scheduled for 4 April 2022) Tom Beecher (Apr 04)
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