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Re: how networking happens in Hawaii


From: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3 () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 19:29:43 -0400

See official apology of the United State to Hawaii
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-107/pdf/STATUTE-107-Pg1510.pdf
which includes these words:
"apologizes to Native Hawaiians on behalf of the people of the United
States for the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17, 1893 with
the participation of agents and citizens of the United States, and the
deprivation of the rights of Native Hawaiians to self-determination;"

Thanks,
Donald
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On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 7:09 PM scott via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:



On 4/30/2022 12:19 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
This reads a lot like dsl wars between ilecs and clecs in the late 90s
and
early 2ks.

compounded by a 100+ year old military occupation
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Hee is definitely acting in an old school (meaning 60s/70s) Hawaii
manner... ;)

Also, for the others here...on the occupation.  I haven't read this
particular article, but I'm sure it covers the basics. The main question
is 'was it a nation when the US gov't overthrew Hawaii or was it a group
of individual kingdoms?'  Many get that wrong and that's what matters to
international courts on the current issue of Hawaiian sovereignty.  For
sure, it was a nation due to a forced treaty agreement with Kaumuali`i.
  The rest of the individual island kingdoms were conquered with
violence by Kamehameha who then created a lahui..a nation.  Therefore,
it is a military occupation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_the_Hawaiian_Kingdom


scott

well, that does it for the history lesson. ;-)


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