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Re: Gmail (thus Nanog) rejecting ipv6 email


From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 16:19:01 -0700


On 4/2/22 3:56 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote:

On 3 Apr 2022, at 00:29, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:


On 4/2/22 3:23 PM, Jeroen Massar via NANOG wrote:
Hi Dan,

Hope the rest of the world is treating you decently!

There are a lot of bits and bobs that one has to get right for mail to flow, amongst which:

  - IP -> PTR lookup -> that hostname lookup, and match to IP again
    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS)
  - SPF
  - DKIM
  - DMARC
  - ARC (for mailinglists)
Seriously spend zero time on ARC. It doesn't work as advertised... [snip, see below]
Unless one works at the large ESPs, hard to tell what they really care about and verify.

Google at least adds ARC headers in Gmail, and did the editing of RFC8617.

ARC resolves into a previously unsolved problem: reputation. You could do reputation with plain old DKIM too, so I don't see why changing the name of the header changes anything on the ground. And nobody could give me an answer of why signing previous Authentication-Results is useful for toward that end. It's just more magical thinking.

Thank goodness it's an experimental RFC so it can go the way of the dodo.

Mike



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