Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections

[Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]

OK the one example you provided has gigabit fiber though.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 8:41 AM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:

> Can you provide examples?
> >
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twe6uTwOyJo&ab_channel=NANOG
>
> Our good friend Jared could only get 1.5M DSL living just outside Ann
> Arbor, MI, so he had to start his own CLEC.
>
> I have friends in significantly more rural areas than he lives in (
> Niagara and Orleans county NYS , between Niagara Falls and Rochester ) who
> have the same 400Mb package from Spectrum that I do, living in the City of
> Niagara Falls.
>
> This is not to say that rural America is a mecca of connectivity; there is
> a long way to go all the way around regardless. But it is a direct example
> as you asked for.
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:57 PM Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
> wrote:
>
> > > There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far
> > worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”.
> >
> > Can you provide examples?
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 3:51 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > On Jun 2, 2021, at 02:10 , Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 6/2/21 11:04, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I disagree… If it could be forced into a standardized format using a
> > > standardized approach to data acquisition and reliable comparable results
> > > across providers, it could be a very useful adjunct to real competition.
> > > > If we can't even agree on what "minimum speed for U.S. broadband
> > > connections" actually means, fat chance having a "nutritional facts" at the
> > > back of the "Internet in a tea cup" dropped off at your door step.
> > > > I'm not saying it's not useful, I'm just saying that easily goes down
> > > the "what color should we use for the bike shed" territory, while people in
> > > rural America still have no or poor Internet access.
> > > > Mark.
> > >
> > > ROFLMAO…
> > >
> > > People in Rural America seem to be doing just fine. Most of the ones I
> > > know at least have GPON or better.
> > >
> > > Meanwhile, here in San Jose, a city that bills itself as “The Capital of
> > > Silicon Valley”, the best I can get is Comcast (which does finally purport
> > > to be Gig down), but rarely delivers that.
> > >
> > > Yes, anything involving the federal government will get the full bike
> > > shed treatment no matter what we do.
> > >
> > > There are plenty of urban and suburban areas in America that are far
> > > worse off from a broadband perspective than “rural America”.
> > >
> > > Owen