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Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Re: 202207232217.AYC
From: "Abraham Y. Chen" <aychen () avinta com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2022 22:28:15 -0400
Hi, John:1) "... i.e. we’re instead going to engage in the worlds longest running game of “whack-a-mole” by just blocking their last known website/mail server/botnet and the wishing for the best… ":
Perhaps it is time for us to consider the "Back to the Future" strategy, i.e., the Internet should practice static IP address like all traditional communication system did?
Regards, Abe (2022-07-23 22:27 EDT) On 2022-06-22 10:35, John Curran wrote:
Barry - There is indeed a metaphor to your “rattling doorknobs", but it’s not pretty when it comes to the Internet… If you call the police because someone is creeping around your property checking doors and windows for possible entry, then they will indeed come out and attempt to arrest the perpetrator (I am most certainly not a lawyer, but as I understand it even the act of opening an unlocked window or door is sufficient in many jurisdictions to satisfy the “breaking the seal of the property” premise and warrant charging under breaking and entering statues.) Now welcome to the Internet… paint all your windows black, remove all lighting save for one small bulb over your front entry. Sit back and enjoy the continuous sounds of rattling doorknobs and scratching at the windows. If/when you find a digital culprit creeping around inside the home, your best option is burn down the place and start anew with the copies you keep offsite in storage elsewhere. Similarly if you find a “trap” (e.g., a phishing email) placed on your patio or amongst your mail… discard such cautiously and hope your kids use equal care. “Best practice” for handling these situations on the Internet is effectively to cope as best you can despite being inundated with attempts – i.e. most Internet security professionals and law enforcement will tell you that the idea of actually trying to identify and stop any of the culprits involved is considered rather quaint at best – i.e. we’re instead going to engage in the worlds longest running game of “whack-a-mole” by just blocking their last known website/mail server/botnet and the wishing for the best… Enjoy your Internet! /John Disclaimers: My views alone - use, reuse, or discard as desired. This message made of 100% recycled electrons.On 22 Jun 2022, at 12:04 AM, bzs () theworld com wrote: When I lock the doors etc to my home I'll often mutter "ya know, if someone is rattling my door knob I already have a big problem." I suppose when I'm home it might give me a warning if I hear it. There must be a metaphor in there somewhere. I do recall as a teen noticing that one of the closed store's on the main drag's door was unlocked late one night walking home (this was in NYC.) I saw a cop and told him and he scolded me angrily for rattling door knobs, I could be arrested for that! But verified it, looked around inside with his flashlight, and called it in. I forget how I noticed but I wasn't in the habit of rattling stores' door knobs, I think the door was just a bit ajar. There must be a metaphor in there somewhere. On June 21, 2022 at 10:01 mpalmer () hezmatt org (Matt Palmer) wrote:On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 02:18:30AM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote:When researchers, or whoever, claim their scanning an altruistic service, I ask them if they would mind someone coming to their home and trying toopen all the doors and windows every night.If there were a few hundred people with nefarious intent trying to open your doors and windows every night, someone doing the same thing with altruisticintent might not be such a bad thing. - Matt-- -Barry SheinSoftware Tool & Die | bzs () TheWorld com | http://www.TheWorld.com <http://www.TheWorld.com>Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
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