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Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities
From: "J. Hellenthal via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 14:38:56 +0000
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 02:47:27PM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote:
J.,On 2022-06-20, at 14:14, J. Hellenthal <jhellenthal () dataix net> wrote: Yeah that's another thing, "research" cause you need to learn it let's have them do it too, multiply that by every university \o/
No no not saying there wasnt. Research is needed for sure and education is very important. But the fact of most matters stand in that area where some code may not exactly be up to par from "some students" and still exaust itself on the public internet of things where little real oversight actually happens from its origin until it has already impacted multiple destinations that did not ask for it. Definately did sign up for it! and with all the proper checks and balances, can handle them appropriately at 2am when when N students have been asleep letting their code run wild. Sorry not picking on "you/this" in particular on your part. It's just not all of them are exactly up to par while following what they believe are best practices governed by an instructor(not you) that deems it benign where I have found some instructors/educators have very little knowledge in the field whatsoever beyond a textbook and a home computer/lab. I look forward to the school years to begin, it brings a challenge where traffic from skids drops between certain hours in different countries and the detection begins for advertisement scanners and real threats. Noise is cool, it gives pretty results where the ugly of the networks typically just annoy you. Not cool when its amplified by N number of whatever (advertising/company/students) like a udp amplification attack but initiated by india.edu, america.edu, X.edu all at the wrong time. Anyway I retract Happy fathers day yesterday and hope all your're weekends have been great.
there was some actual research involved. I agree that there should be a very good reason to expend a tiny bit of everyone’s resources on this. I do not agree that this externality makes any research in this space unethical. You signed up for this when you joined the Internet (er, stuck with the IPv4 Internet, I should probably say). Grüße, Carsten
-- The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
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- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities, (continued)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities goemon--- via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Fernando Gont (Jun 21)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Ronald F. Guilmette (Jun 21)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Fernando Gont (Jun 21)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Ronald F. Guilmette (Jun 21)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Ronald F. Guilmette (Jun 21)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Carsten Bormann (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities goemon--- via NANOG (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Carsten Bormann (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Mel Beckman (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Carsten Bormann (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Carsten Bormann (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Michael Butler via NANOG (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Randy Bush (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Matthew Craig (Jun 20)
- Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities Robert L Mathews (Jun 20)