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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers
From: Kord Martin <kord () firstnationscable com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 12:36:36 -0400
On 2022-06-06 11:32 a.m., Casey Russell via NANOG wrote:
After years and years of being told why it's not feasible to build out infrastructure upgrades to provide internet service, once I started to work in the industry it was pretty shocking to see how customers are actually treated. It's tough to gather context from the replies but I feel like most of the industry still sees internet service as a luxury, and not something potentially life-changing.But my point was only that if we keep arguing against change and against pushing barriers, then we are what customers (or members) say we are. obstinate, greedy, uncooperative, and unsupportive of their goals. I don't think you're any of those things, I just think we need to stop setting limits FOR customers and be open to a conversation about how to get to (insert wild and crazy, super cool goal here). All the time being as realistic as we can about how to do that.
It seems like a lot of people are still missing the mark on how people actually use the bandwidth. The biggest complaints I hear are from people who are learning, teaching, or working remotely, that struggle to do basic tasks like move files back and forth from a corporate share. You can tell them to "just go to the office", but why should they? WFH has become such a life-changing thing for a lot of people, why not enable that kind of productivity? Then there's a growing industry of content creation; uploading to YouTube, live streaming, online gaming, online collaboration. All of that stuff is impossible without sufficient bandwidth, especially in the upstream.
When I think about the WISPs that pop up to provide coverage to under-served areas and then just collecting the money from customers, with no plans to develop any infrastructure. Makes me think of that meme ... "I want internet" then being told "we have internet at home" but it's a 5/1 WISP connection with 600ms pings and 40% uptime.
I don't think the regs need to mandate more speed, because of course MOST people will be totally satisfied with a basic connection, but I feel like providers have historically used that as an excuse to NOT provide a better service to customers that want or need it, where "good enough" just isn't good enough.
K
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- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers, (continued)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Masataka Ohta (Jun 03)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 05)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Masataka Ohta (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Sean Donelan (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Casey Russell via NANOG (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Jason Canady (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Casey Russell via NANOG (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Sean Donelan (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Kord Martin (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Sean Donelan (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Casey Russell via NANOG (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Chris Adams (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dorn Hetzel (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Christopher Morrow (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Christopher Morrow (Jun 06)