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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers
From: Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 10:13:02 -0500 (CDT)
Yes, human impatience and peace of mind do matter. But willingness to pay is not unlimited. There is an argument, presented in my paper "The volume and value of information," in the International Journal of Communication in 2012, https://ijoc.org/index.php/ijoc/article/view/1570/740 that value is roughly logarithmic in volume (or speed). So going from 100 Mbps to 1 Gbps is like going from 8 to 9, whereas moving from 10 Kbps to 100 Kbps was like going from 4 to 5. Andrew On Tue, 7 Jun 2022, Denis Fondras wrote:
Le Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 08:12:07AM -0500, Mike Hammett a écrit :Would it matter if it took 10 minutes or an hour?Yes, it means the computer could be off for 50 minutes. Also everyone who had a connection reset when uploading a big file after 55 minutes understands why it is good if it only would take 10 minutes. Peace of mind is under-rated :)What's the OneDrive rate limit? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Wicks" <tony () wicks co nz> To: nanog () nanog org Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 5:36:13 PM Subject: RE: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providersThis whole thread is about hypothetical futures, so it's not hard to imagine downloads filling to available capacity. MikeSo, a good example of how this capacity is used, In New Zealand we have a pretty broad fibre network covering most of the population. My niece asked me to share my backup copy of her wedding photo’s/video’s the other day. I have a 4Gb/s / 4Gb/s XGSPON connection and she’s got a 1Gb/s / 500Mb/s GPON connection. I simply dropped a copy of the 5.1G directory into a one drive folder and shared it, 10 minutes later (one drive is still limited in how fast you can upload) she had it all and she was very happy. With these speeds its not even a consideration to think about capacity, everything just works.
Current thread:
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers, (continued)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Michael Thomas (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Livingood, Jason via NANOG (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers David Conrad (Jun 07)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Masataka Ohta (Jun 08)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Denis Fondras (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers J. Hellenthal via NANOG (Jun 07)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Paul Timmins (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Eric Kuhnke (Jun 08)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Brandon Butterworth (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Brandon Butterworth (Jun 06)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (Jun 06)
- RE: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Kord Martin (Jun 06)