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Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock)
From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon () jmaimon com>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:41:10 -0500
Tom Beecher wrote:
I dont think it is as bad as that, but what you are implicitly saying is that even multi-decades efforts to prolong IPv4 have clear justification to begin now, if not sooner.The only way IPv6 will ever be ubiquitous is if there comes a time where there is some forcing event that requires it to be.Unless that occurs, people will continue to spend time and energy coming up with ways to squeeze the blood out of v4 that could have been used to get v6 going instead. I don't foresee anything changing for most of the rest of our careers, and possibly the next generation behind us.
As for the rest of this popular meme, instead of aspirations to force a chosen technology down the throats of many clearly unwilling and/or uninterested parties whom make up a still significant percentage of the internet, perhaps more effort should be expended on
A) making the chosen technology more attractive, more useful, more deployable, more compatible, etc. Because clearly its not enough of those things for many, regardless of whatever personal experience or theories you may have on the matter.
B) Keeping the rest of the internet as functional as possible, with whatever tradeoffs make send, for the actual potential duration of A instead of pie-in-the-sky estimates. Which have a 100% track record of being wrong.
Persuasion, not coercion. Which even if it were possible, is wrong and immoral.
The internet is supposed to be about mutually beneficial cooperation, not hierarchical coercion.
Joe
Current thread:
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock), (continued)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Masataka Ohta (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Tom Beecher (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Nathan Angelacos (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) John R. Levine (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Seth David Schoen (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Joe Maimon (Mar 10)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Mark Andrews (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Dave Taht (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Tom Hill (Mar 09)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Joe Maimon (Mar 10)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) bzs (Mar 08)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Greg Skinner via NANOG (Mar 12)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Gilmore (Mar 16)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 16)
- Re: V6 still not supported james.cutler () consultant com (Mar 16)
- Re: V6 still not supported David Bass (Mar 16)
- Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 16)
- Re: V6 still not supported John Gilmore (Mar 16)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Tom Beecher (Mar 16)
- Re: CC: s to Non List Members (was Re: 202203080924.AYC Re: 202203071610.AYC Re: Making Use of 240/4 NetBlock) Greg Skinner via NANOG (Mar 16)