Standards Compliant Mail Client Re: V6 still not supported Re: 202203211201.AYC

["Abraham Y. Chen" <aychen () avinta com>]

Hi, Blake:

1)    " so it's not a chore to tell what thread you're even replying 
to?   ":    I am lost by your statement. I start each of my reply by 
quoting a phrase or sentence of the message that I am responding to. To 
be sure the original message in included, I copy the last message 
following what I am writing. I also prefix it with the forum message tag 
such as in this case "NANOG Digest, Vol 170, Issue 20 Message: 33 ". 
This should be enough for anyone to follow in the latest exchange, as 
well as tracing it back in history from the NANOG Digest, if interested. 
Anything more could I do to ease your efforts without beginning to 
create a long tail to a thread?

2)    " ... a standards compliant mail client ...   ":    Please name 
the "standards" and list a couple software that comply with it. This is 
a topic that I am actually very interested in studying because eMails 
these days come in too many formats / styles. Please teach me.

Thanks,


Abe (2022-03-21 12:20)



On 2022-03-20 19:01, Blake Dunlap wrote:
> Can you get a standards compliant mail client so it's not a chore to 
> tell what thread you're even replying to?
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 11:44 Abraham Y. Chen <aychen () avinta com> wrote:
>
>     Dear Borg:
>
>     1)    " ... I dont see a way of extending IPv4 without making it a
>     new protocol.  ... new IP protocol that is much more similar to
>     IPv4, just extends address space. ... ":    I believe that you
>     will be pleasantly surprised at the proposal summarized by the the
>     below whitepaper. It proposes an overlay architecture over the
>     current Internet. As such, assignable IPv4 addresses are extended
>     without the baggage of the current Internet and no new protocol.
>     To begin the deployment, all need be done is "*/disabling/* the
>     program code that has been */disabling/* the use of the 240/4
>     netblock" in routers.
>
>     https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf
>
>     2)    The "transition" will be mostly transparent from ordinary
>     users' point of view, because IoTs do not need be reprogrammed.
>     Please feel free to ask me to describe specific issues that you
>     may come across.
>
>     Regards,
>
>
>     Abe (2022-03-18 12:43)
>
>
>
>     ------------------------------
>     NANOG Digest, Vol 170, Issue 20
>
>     Message: 33
>     Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 09:36:40 +0100 (CET)
>     From:borg () uu3 net
>     To:nanog () nanog org
>     Subject: Re: V6 still not supported
>     Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.2203180928500.16585@cube>
>     Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>
>     While Im dont like IPv6, I see it as a bad idea.
>     >From my knowledge I dont see a way of extending IPv4 without making it
>     a new protocol. It was not designed that way.
>
>     What I would LOVE to see that someone will pop in with new IP protocol
>     that is much more similar to IPv4, just extends address space and fixes
>     some well know issues. (for example remove netmask and use prefixlen/CIDR).
>
>     Other importand aspect is some kind of IPvX -> IPv4 interop, so you can
>     quickly put clients into new protocol and they have access to entire IPv4
>     internet out of the box.
>
>     Also, we need to please enterprises so we need largish RFC1918 space too.
>
>     Just my 2 cents again
>
>
>     ---------- Original message ----------
>
>     From: Matt Hoppes<mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net>  <mailto:mattlists () rivervalleyinternet net>
>     To: Joe Maimon<jmaimon () jmaimon com>  <mailto:jmaimon () jmaimon com>,bzs () theworld com,
>          Tom Beecher<beecher () beecher cc>  <mailto:beecher () beecher cc>
>     Cc: NANOG<nanog () nanog org>  <mailto:nanog () nanog org>
>     Subject: Re: V6 still not supported
>     Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:34:19 -0500
>
>     At this point I would**love**  to see IPv4 get extended, a software patch applied
>     to devices, and IPv6 die a quick painless death.
>
> >     Its not impossible to envision that IPv4 does not ever go away but actually
> >     gets extended in such a way that it obsoletes IPv6. The longer this drags out
> >     the less implausible it seems.
> >
> >     Joe
>
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