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Re: ISP data collection from home routers
From: PJ Capelli via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 15:04:56 +0000
Most end users (at least in the US) don't have a choice as many jurisdictions have sold a franchise (monopoly) to one provider. Either they sign or they don't get internet. Perhaps 5G will broaden the number of providers end users can choose from, and not be forced into this kind of contract. But why do you think any ISP would agree to not collect this information? pj capelli pjcapelli () pm me No one can build you the bridge on which you, and only you, must cross the river of life - Nietzsche Sent with ProtonMail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 24th, 2022 at 1:11 PM, Christian David <christian () cdavid eti br> wrote:
I think that if the end user at signed contract agreed with this data
collecting and also if there's a mechanism that the same user could deny
the data collection, its look fine to me, there's compliant here in
Brazil with LGPD (our variant from GDPR) and i think that users could
see it as a "plus" cause the majority of ISPs don't have a service that
inspect CPE WIFI's quality.
Em 24/03/2022 14:00, Jay Hennigan escreveu:
On 3/24/22 06:26, Josh Luthman wrote:
I'm surprised we're having this discussion about an internet device
that the customer is using to publicize all of their information on
Facebook and Twitter.
That's called informed consent. And Facebook and Twitter use TLS to
protect the data in transit.
Consumers do not care enough about their privacy to the point where
they are providing the information willingly.
That's the point. The customer is providing information willingly when
they post to social media. The ISP is collecting data without consent.
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Current thread:
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers, (continued)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Josh Luthman (Mar 24)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Giovane C. M. Moura via NANOG (Mar 24)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Christopher Morrow (Mar 24)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Kord Martin (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers PJ Capelli via NANOG (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Mike Hammett (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Joe Greco (Mar 24)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Anne Mitchell (Mar 24)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Jay Hennigan (Mar 24)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Christian David (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers PJ Capelli via NANOG (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Mike Hammett (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Francis Booth via NANOG (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Mu (Mar 25)
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ISP data collection from home routers Michael Froomkin - U . Miami School of Law (Mar 28)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Christopher Morrow (Mar 24)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Michael Thomas (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Tom Beecher (Mar 25)
- Re: ISP data collection from home routers Eric Kuhnke (Mar 25)