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Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 19:38:48 -0500
On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 12:37:59PM -0400, Tom Beecher wrote:
Have you ever considered that this may be in fact: */writing/* and */deploying/* the code that will allow the use of 240/4 the way you expectWhile Mr. Chen may have considered that, he has repeatedly hand waved that it's 'not that big a deal.', so I don't think he adequately grasps the scale of that challenge.
It seems like it should only require changes on a few billion nodes, given the size of the IPv4 address space, right? Oh, wait, NAT... So I guess the question here is how do you plan to incentivize the patching of all these devices, many of which are legacy devices with no maintainer for the firmware/software, in roles where they may not be accessible, and protected by firewalls that understand Class E to be unusable space. I am unclear on the desirability of "fixing" the IPv4 network by touching lots of nodes, in a manner which will never be comprehensive, in order to free up a relatively small block of space. It's going to be crippled, less-valuable space. It seems to me like it'd be much more productive, if you're going to be touching gear, to move towards IPv6. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"-Asimov
Current thread:
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported, (continued)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 25)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 25)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Paul Rolland (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Tom Beecher (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Re: 202203261748.AYC Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Re: 202203261748.AYC Randy Carpenter (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Re: 202203261748.AYC Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 27)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Re: 202203261748.AYC Fred Baker (Mar 27)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Re: 202203261748.AYC Fred Baker (Mar 27)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Joe Greco (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Jay Hennigan (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported John Gilmore (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Brandon Butterworth (Mar 27)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Christian de Larrinaga via NANOG (Mar 27)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Abraham Y. Chen (Mar 27)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 26)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Christopher Morrow (Mar 27)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported John Gilmore (Mar 28)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Joshua Mallad (Mar 28)