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Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported
From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 14:09:37 -0700
On Mar 26, 2022, at 17:30 , Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote: Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote:It still looks like NAT to me.Almost all the people, perhaps other than you, accept NAT as is to keep IPv4 Internet or as part of transition plan from IPv4 to IPv6.NAT is a disgusting hack and destroys the universal peer to peer nature of the internet in favor of a consumer/provider model.As I repeatedly pointed out, end to end NAT is clean preserving the universal peer to peer nature of the Internet.
Nope… It really isn’t. The problem of audit trail opacity is still a major issue with any form of stateful NAT. Owen
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- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 26)
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- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported John Levine (Mar 27)
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- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 29)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Masataka Ohta (Mar 29)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 31)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Masataka Ohta (Mar 31)
- Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported Owen DeLong via NANOG (Mar 31)
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- Re: V6 still not supported Joe Maimon (Mar 24)
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