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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers


From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 12:53:47 -0700


On 5/23/22 12:29 PM, David Bass wrote:
What is changing in the next 5 years that could possibly require a household to need a gig?  That is just ridiculous.

I think the key thing is just to get fiber laid. Once that happens ISP's can turn up the dial relatively easy as needed. Also: even if they gave you a nominal rate of 1G it doesn't mean that they won't oversubcribe the headend and beyond.

Mike



On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 3:15 PM Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:


    On 5/23/22 12:04 PM, Thomas Nadeau wrote:
    >
    >
    >> On May 23, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> On 5/23/22 11:49 AM, Aaron Wendel wrote:
    >>> The Fiber Broadband Association estimates that the average US
    household will need more than a gig within 5 years.  Why not just
    jump it to a gig or more?
    >>
    >> Really? What is the average household doing to use up a gig
    worth of bandwidth?
    >>
    >> Mike
    > Thats almost the same question we were asked at BT a dozen years
    ago when moving from DSL -> FTTC when someone said, “but surely
    DSL is sufficient because its so much faster than dial.”

    The two of us survive just fine with 25Mbs even when we have a house
    full of friends. I mean it would be nice to have 100Mbs so that it's
    never a problem but the reality is that it just hasn't been a
    problem in
    practice. I mean how many 4k streams are running at the same time
    in the
    average household? What else besides game downloads are sucking up
    that
    much bandwidth all of the time?

    Mike


    >
    > —Tom
    >
    >
    >>>
    >>> On 5/23/2022 1:40 PM, Sean Donelan wrote:
    >>>>
    https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-proposes-higher-speed-goals-small-rural-broadband-providers-0
    >>>>
    >>>> The Federal Communications Commission voted [May 19, 2022] to
    seek comment on a proposal to provide additional universal service
    support to certain rural carriers in exchange for increasing
    deployment to more locations at higher speeds. The proposal would
    make changes to the Alternative Connect America Cost Model (A-CAM)
    program, with the goal of achieving widespread deployment of
    faster 100/20 Mbps broadband service throughout the rural areas
    served by rural carriers currently receiving A-CAM support.
    >>>>

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