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Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Sun, 8 May 2022 16:15:58 +0000
Masataka, You’re incorrect about the DMCA when you say “DMCA treats ‘linking’ to illegal contents as illegal as the contents themselves”. You must knowingly link to works that clearly infringe somebody’s copyright. A link to the Israel.TV websites themselves is not to a specific work, so it’s not covered by DMCA. So first, as long as you don’t know that a work is infringing someone’s copyright, then you cannot be held liable for contributor infringement for directing users to that work. But, over and above that requirement, a link that doesn’t go directly to a specific work, but just a website in general (as the judgement declares “shall block access to the website”) is completely out of the bounds of DMCA. Nevertheless, this is still a court order, and presumably carries the full force of the court despite its ridiculous nature. It has the potential to force innocent parties to spend a ton of money defending themselves against red herrings and straw men. -mel via cell On May 8, 2022, at 8:22 AM, Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote: Mel Beckman wrote: But the phrase "or linking to the domain" Includes hundreds, possibly thousands, of unwitting certain parties: DMCA treats "linking" to illegal contents as illegal as the contents themselves, which is why I wrote: : In addition, it seems to me that name server operators "having : actual knowledge" that some domain names are used for copyright : infringements are not be protected by DMCA.
I think I am simply right.
So, you know nothing about DMCA. Read it.
The lawsuit is contradictory and overreaching.
As for transit ISPs enjoying a safe harbor of DMCA, yes, as I already said so. Masataka Ohta
Current thread:
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services, (continued)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services William Herrin (May 05)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services John Curran (May 05)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Grant Taylor via NANOG (May 05)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services John Levine (May 05)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Masataka Ohta (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Mel Beckman (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Jim Popovitch via NANOG (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Masataka Ohta (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Mel Beckman (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Masataka Ohta (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Mel Beckman (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Masataka Ohta (May 08)
- RE: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Philip Loenneker (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Masataka Ohta (May 09)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Masataka Ohta (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services William Herrin (May 05)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Anne Mitchell (May 08)
- Re: Court orders for blocking of streaming services Anne Mitchell (May 08)