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Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC
From: William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2022 12:15:56 -0400
On 11/2/22 8:33 AM, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:
0) "Internet Vendor Task Force indeed.": Thank you so much in distilling this thread one more step for getting even closer to its essence.
As I'd mentioned already, Randy Bush has also had some cogent thoughts over the years. That's where I'd first heard this phrasing long ago. Credit where credit is due. I've been involved since 1979. Hostility to an ITU-style organization arises from the earliest days of the NSFnet (which was government funded), in part because ATT was using the existing standards bodies to prevent the academic Internet itself from going forward. There's a lot of history. There are many different models for standards organization governance. I've been the head of standards for Red Hat for a few years (until it was bought by IBM), navigating roughly 50 different organizations. Back in the day, my early involvement was funded by government grants, government oversight committees, and political campaigns. (Particularly, my PPP work was originally funded by Bob Carr for Congress and Carl Levin for Senate, via Practical Political Consulting.) And for nearly half my life, I've been spending my time with a now former Member of Congress. So I've seen folks who know politics well.... All human effort is inherently political. Our problem is, engineers are particularly poor at politics.
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- Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC Abraham Y. Chen (Nov 02)
- Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC William Allen Simpson (Nov 04)
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- Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC Joel Jaeggli (Nov 07)
- Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC Masataka Ohta (Nov 05)
- Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC William Allen Simpson (Nov 07)
- Re: Jon Postel Re: 202210301538.AYC Mark Tinka (Nov 06)