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Re: Request for assistance with Verizon FIOS connection


From: Joe Loiacono <jloiacon () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2023 13:42:41 -0400

I dunno ... I had to turn Verizon's FiOS IPv6 off because it wasn't playing well with my Pulse VPN. So they are providing it now (maybe not supporting it ;-)

On 7/15/2023 12:05 PM, Joe Klein wrote:
As from a consumers standpoint, Verizon FIOS has published an IPv6 website, created a discussion forum, and stated they would soon support. That was 14 years ago.

Joe Klein

On Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 3:46 AM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote:

    Matt,

    I missed where the OP indicated they've tried both a direct laptop
    connection as well as another router. I think you may have seen my
    reply suggesting that and thought that was the OP stating he'd
    done it.

    -mel
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    *From:* Matt Corallo <nanog () as397444 net>
    *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2023 9:44 PM
    *To:* Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>; Neil Hanlon <neil () shrug pw>;
    nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
    *Subject:* Re: Request for assistance with Verizon FIOS connection
    OP indicated they've tried both a direct laptop connection as well
    as another router. That seems to
    meet the requirement for having ruled out his home-made router,
    though obviously I agree one should
    attempt to rule out any possible errors by doing transparent
    packet sniffing analyzing the problem
    carefully before escalating an issue. Hopefully everyone on this
    list knows the value of the tech on
    the other end of the line's time :)

    Matt

    On 7/14/23 9:07 PM, Mel Beckman wrote:
    > Getting the FCC involved seems premature, since the OP hasn't
    yet ruled out a problem with his home
    > made router. Not that there's anything wrong with making your
    own router, but it seems there is a
    > burden of proof on the end user to demonstrate the problem isn't
    at with the CPE. Even a test as
    > simple as connecting a laptop up for a day and running pings
    would rule out the CPE.
    >
    >    -mel
    >
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    > *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+mel=beckman.org () nanog org> on
    behalf of Matt Corallo <nanog () as397444 net>
    > *Sent:* Friday, July 14, 2023 5:46 PM
    > *To:* Neil Hanlon <neil () shrug pw>; nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
    > *Subject:* Re: Request for assistance with Verizon FIOS connection
    > I've always had good luck with
    https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us
    > <https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us>. This tends to
    result in
    > a higher-level tech getting assigned to your ticket at least at
    larger providers. Depending on where
    > you are, your local government may have a similar process (e.g.
    in NYC the city has a similar
    > process that tends to get very high priority tech attention as
    city council members will rake
    > providers over the coals on individual complaints come
    contract-renewal time).
    >
    > Matt
    >
    > On 7/14/23 8:01 AM, Neil Hanlon wrote:
    >> Hi all - I apoligize for the not-necessarily-on-topic post, but
    I've been struggling with this issue
    >> for the past two
    >> weeks and am about out of ideas and options other than ask here.
    >>
    >> The short version is I recently got FIOS at my (new) house, and
    plugged in my router (SFF PC running
    >> Vyos). Initially,
    >> all was fine, however, some time later, connectivity to the
    gateway given by the DHCP server is
    >> completely lost. If I
    >> force a renewal, the gateway (sometimes) comes back--sometimes
    not. When it doesn't work, the
    >> DHCPDISCOVER process has
    >> to start over again and I often recive a lease in a completely
    different subnet--which isn't really
    >> the problem, but
    >> seems to be symptomatic of whatever is happening upstream of me.
    >>
    >> The problem, from my perspective, is that the IPv4 gateway
    given to me in my DHCP lease goes away
    >> before my lease
    >> expires--leading to broken v4 connectivity until either 1. the
    system goes to renew the lease and
    >> fails, starting over;
    >> or 2. A watchdog notices and renews the lease (This is what I
    have attempted to implement, without
    >> much success).
    >>
    >> As a note, IPv6 connectivity (dhcpv6-pd, receiving a /56) is
    entirely unaffected when IPv4
    >> connectivity breaks.
    >>
    >> For the past week, I have been monitoring to various IPv4 and
    IPv6 endpoints over ICMP and TCP, and
    >> have been able to
    >> chart the outages over that period. More or less, every two
    hours, shortly after a lease is renewed,
    >> the gateway
    >> disappears. I'm happy to share more details and graphs/logs
    with anyone who might be able to help.
    >>
    >> I have attempted to contact FIOS support several times and even
    had a trouble ticket opened at one
    >> point--though this
    >> has been closed as they cannot apparently find any issue with
    the ONT.
    >>
    >> I'm at my wit's end with this issue and would really appreciate
    any and all help. Please contact me
    >> off list if you need
    >> additional details--I can provide ticket numbers/conversation
    IDs/etc, as well as graphs/logs/etc.
    >>
    >> Best,
    >> Neil Hanlon

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