Re: My first ARIN Experience but probably not the last, unfortunately..

[Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>]

> The issue being a newcomer and not fully versed on the levels, I never
> made the connection of the /36 to the 2X-Small Category. A simple addition
> of adding in a reference to that category would make it a lot more clear..

The service levels are defined right there in the chart above the wording
on the fee waiver. What do you mean you 'weren't fully versed' on the
levels? They are right there!

Looking at the ARIN website and fee schedule, I see there is a blurb at the
> bottom of the RSP Categories and Fees about IPv6 fees being waived until
> December 31, 2026. My reaction was along the lines of this is great, it
> helps small companies and startups get IPv6 deployed and up and running in
> their environment.

There is no possible way that anyone should interpret the current wording
of the asterisk'd text as ALL IPv6 fees are waived until 2026. None. If
that's your take away, I'm not sure what to say.

As the blurb in the schedule mentions nothing about the 2X-Small Category
> and honestly, no fees are really waived.

I'm 100% with John here. You didn't read it. The chart shows you what a
2X-Small category is. Very straight forward.

Feedback that the text could be slightly more descriptive is perfectly
legitimate. Accusing ARIN of 'bait and switch' because you didn't RTFM is
not.


On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 2:18 PM Robert Webb <rwfireguru () gmail com> wrote:

> No, I didn't quit reading..
>
> The issue being a newcomer and not fully versed on the levels, I never
> made the connection of the /36 to the 2X-Small Category. A simple addition
> of adding in a reference to that category would make it a lot more clear..
>
> Something as simple as changing to the below, would have more easily
> triggered that connection.
>
> **There is a temporary IPv6 fee waiver for organizations in the 3X-Small
> service category. A 3X-Small organization may receive registry services for
> up to a /36 of total IPv6 space and remain in the 3X-Small service category
> and not be charged at the 2X-Small fee schedule. This waiver will expire 31
> December 2026.*
>
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2023 at 1:57 PM Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 14 Jul 2023, Robert Webb wrote:
> >
> > > For all of you who have historical knowledge of how ARIN has/does
> > operate, throw that out the window and look at it from a newcomer point of
> > view and the wording being taken at
> > > face value.
> >
> > You just stopped reading after the part you liked :)
> >
> > "There is a temporary IPv6 fee waiver for organizations in the 3X-Small
> > service category. A 3X-Small organization may receive registry services
> > for up to a /36 of total IPv6 space and remain in the 3X-Small service
> > category. This waiver will expire 31 December 2026."
> >
> > The "fee waiver" is that they're allowing a 3x-small org to grow into a
> > 2x-small org's worth of v6 space while staying at the 3x-small org annual
> > fee.
> >
> > Presumably, you could request a /40, and then request another (and
> > another...), and as long as you have a /36 or less worth of v6 space,
> > you'll still only owe $250/year for the IPv6 space until this "deal"
> > expires at the end of 2026.
> >
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