Re: 10G CPE w/VXLAN - vendors?

[Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa>]

On 6/14/23 20:50, Adam Thompson wrote:

> Hello, all.
>
> I’m having difficulty finding vendors, never mind products, that fit 
> my need.
>
> We have a small but growing number of L2 (bridged) customers that have 
> diverse fiber paths available, and, naturally, want to make use of them.
>
> We have a solution for this: we extend the edge of our EVPN VXLAN 
> fabric right to the customer premise. The customer-prem device needs 
> 4x10G SFP+ cages (2 redundant paths, plus LAG to customer), and the 
> switches we currently use, Arista 7020Rs, are quite expensive if I’m 
> deploying one one per customer.  (Nice switches, but overkill here – I 
> don’t need 40/100G, and I don’t need 24 SFP+ ports.  And they still 
> take forever to ship.)
>
> We use RFC7438 §6.3 “vlan-aware-bundle” mode, not §6.1 “vlan-based” 
> mode, which limits our choices somewhat.  I might be willing to 
> entertain spinning up a separate VXLAN mesh using RFC7438 §6.1 
> (“vlan-based”) and static VTEPs if it saves me a lot of pain.
>
> However, I’m having trouble finding small & cheap*/er/* 1U (or even 
> desktop/wallmount) devices that have 4 SFP+ cages, and can do VXLAN, 
> in the first place.
>
> Who even makes CPE gear with SFP+ ports? (Other than Mikrotik 
> CRS309-1G-8S+IN / CRS317-1G-16S+RM, which are nice, but our policy 
> requires vendor support contracts, so… no-go.)
>
> Vendors?  Model#s, if you happen to know any?

You will have trouble finding such a device at the price you need 
because it is atypical to have your customer's CPE as part of your 
Metro-E backbone.

Our sales people have asked for this more times than I can remember. We 
have continued to refuse for a reason.

They've angled their query to extend our u-PE devices into the customer 
site, to which they can attach their CPE. We have refused that too, 
because most customer's do not allow 3rd party fibre x-connects into 
their site (for example, some country's embassy, a stock exchange 
building, a bank, e.t.c.), never mind the fact that most customer sites 
are not fitted with 24/7/365 availability and security. And we continue 
to refuse.

My advice - don't do it. But it sounds like you want to, so...

Mark.