Re: 1.1.1.1 support?

[Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi>]

Yes, it works in every other CF except LCA-CF. Thank you for the
additional data point.

You can use `dig CHAOS TXT id.server @1.1.1.1 +nsid` to get two
unicast identifiers for the server you got the response from.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 15:49, Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:
> Try asking dns-operations () lists dns-oarc net for someone at CloudFlare.
>
> For what it's worth, it works for me.  I'm in Troy, OH.
>
> C:\Users\jluthman>dig www.moi.gov.cy @1.1.1.1 +short
> 212.31.118.26
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 9:43 AM Saku Ytti <saku () ytti fi> wrote:
> > On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 at 15:26, Matt Harris <matt () netfire net> wrote:
> >
> > > When something is provided at no cost, I don't see how it can be unethical unless they are explicitly lying about 
> > > the ways in which they use the data they gather.
> > > Ultimately, you're asking them to provide a costly service (support for end-users, the vast majority of whom will 
> > > not ask informed, intelligent questions like the members of this list would be able to, but would still demand the 
> > > same level of support) on top of a service they are already providing at no cost. That's both unrealistic and 
> > > unnecessary. There's an exceedingly simple solution, here, after all: if you don't like their service or it isn't 
> > > working for you as an end-user, don't use it.
> >
> >
> > Thank you for the philosophical perspective, but currently my interest is not to debate merits or lack thereof in 
> > laissez-faire economics.
> >
> > The problem is, a large number of people will use 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8 or 9.9.9.9 despite my or your position about it. 
> > There is incentive for providers to provide it 'for free', as it adds value to their products as users are 
> > compensating providers with the data.
> >
> > Occasionally things don't work and when they do not, we need a way to inform the provider 'hey you have a problem'. 
> > You could be anywhere in this chain, with no ability to impact any of the decisions.
> >
> > I know there is a real problem, I know real users are impacted, I know almost none of them will have the ability to 
> > understand why there is a problem or remediate it.
> >
> > --
> >   ++ytti



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