Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

[Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>]

When you have a sufficiently large mass of non-technical end users,
inevitably some percentage of them will end up doing something like
enabling WAN-interface-facing remote admin access,which then gets pwned and
turned into a botnet. It's a real problem at scale. Compromised CPE routers
in addition to people visiting virus/trojan laden webservers and infecting
their endpoint devices.

good example:

https://www.fortinet.com/blog/threat-research/condi-ddos-botnet-spreads-via-tp-links-cve-2023-1389



On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 3:37 PM John Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote:

> It appears that Bryan Fields <Bryan () bryanfields net> said:
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> > On 10/27/23 7:49 AM, John Levine wrote:
> > > But for obvious good reasons,
> > > the vast majority of their customers don't
> >
> > I'd argue that as a service provider deliberately messing with DNS is an
> > obvious bad thing.  They're there to deliver packets.
>
> For a network feeding a data center, sure. For a network like
> Charter's which is feeding unsophisticated nontechnical users, they
> need all the messing they can get.
>
> If you're one of the small minority of retail users that knows enough
> about the technology to pick your own resolver, go ahead.  But it's
> a reasonable default to keep malware out of Grandma's iPad.
>
> R's,
> John