Re: Zayo woes

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

Ugh... Just as much NOT ISP as ISP. 




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From: "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> 
To: "Matt Erculiani" <merculiani () gmail com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:39:49 AM 
Subject: Re: Zayo woes 


Well sure, but what started this tangent is that to me, anyway, it seemed like ENA had just as much ISP as it had ISP, 
if not more. It would be like buying a farm to get farm-fresh eggs in your kitchen. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Matt Erculiani" <merculiani () gmail com> 
To: "Anne Mitchell" <amitchell () isipp com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:06:57 AM 
Subject: Re: Zayo woes 


> they are left with having to run something that they never really wanted until they can figure out what to do with it 


Buy enough Dark Fiber providers, you'll eventually acquire an ISP 
Buy enough ISPs, you'll eventually acquire a Colo 
Buy enough Colos, you'll eventually acquire a small Cloud 
Buy any small Clouds and you're guaranteed to acquire managed services for small companies. 


Now you've gone from being Layer 0 only catering whales, to dabbling in Layer 7 at Dr. Morris's Family dentistry. 


Spin off what you don't want, and repeat. 


-Matt 


On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 9:40 AM Anne Mitchell < amitchell () isipp com > wrote: 




> On Sep 19, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote: 
>
> Sometimes it does not add any material value to either network. Sometimes it takes too long. 

And sometimes the acquisition is really just about acquiring the assets, such as the customer list*, and then they are 
left with having to run something that they never really wanted until they can figure out what to do with it. 

*Yes, even in these industries. Do I sound cynical? Well, cynical != not accurate. :-( 

Anne 

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