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Re: maximum ipv4 bgp prefix length of /24 ?


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 15:11:15 -0700



On Sep 29, 2023, at 14:48, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 2:13 PM Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc> wrote:
My understanding of Juniper's approach to the problem is that instead
of employing TCAMs for next-hop lookup, they use general purpose CPUs
operating on a radix tree, exactly as you would for an all-software
router.

Absolutely are not doing that with "general purpose CPUs".

The LU block on early gen Trios was a dedicated ASIC (LU by itself, then consolidated slightly) , then later gen 
Trio put everything on a single chip, but again dedicated ASIC.

Hi Tom,

For clarity, general purpose CPU refers to an architecture not an
implementation. It's capable of running arbitrary computer software
and has the typical functions like loading and saving registers, an
adder, bit shifts, etc. The CPU in a Raspberry Pi is also part of a
dedicated ASIC that does wifi, packet switching and a bunch of other
stuff. It's still a CPU. Compare to a TCAM which is purpose built to
match input bit patterns and is capable of nothing else.

I suppose the PPEs in the Trio are more like GPUs than CPUs - more
limited instruction sets but higher parallelism. However, they still
follow the cache pattern where the frequently used parts of the FIB
tree are in a fast SRAM cache and the remainder is in slower DRAM
where it can be loaded into SRAM at the occasional need. The FIB size
limit before cache thrashing sets in and cuts the PPS is softer than
the limit with a TCAM but it's still there.

You continue to assume that there is a fast SRAM cache. I’m not sure
that is true. I think that all of the FIB RAM on the line cards is fast SRAM
and no cache.

Owen


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