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Re: Networks ignoring prepends?


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:07:26 -0500


I’d bet that 47787 is a paying century link customer. As such, despite the
ugliness of the path, CL probably local prefs everything advertised by them
higher than any non-paying link. I’m willing to bet 1299 is peered and not
paying CL.


It's almost as if you've done this before. :)

Community : 3356:3 3356:22 3356:100 ==> 3356:123 <++ 3356:575
3356:903 3356:2011 3356:11918 47787:1020
47787:3090 47787:3690 47787:30000
Cluster : 0.0.7.15 0.0.7.19
Originator Id : 4.69.181.14 Peer Router Id : 4.69.130.10
Fwd Class : None Priority : None
Flags : Used Valid Best IGP Group-Best
Route Source : Internal
AS-Path : 47787 47787 47787 47787 53356 11875 11875 11875

3356:123 = Customer


On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 5:45 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

I’d bet that 47787 is a paying century link customer. As such, despite the
ugliness of the path, CL probably local prefs everything advertised by them
higher than any non-paying link. I’m willing to bet 1299 is peered and not
paying CL.

Sending bits for revenue is almost always preferable to sending bits for
free, so…

Owen


On Jan 22, 2024, at 12:37, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 10:19 AM James Jun <james.jun () towardex com>
wrote:
So, as a customer, you actually SHOULD be demanding your ISPs
to positively identify and categorize their routes using local-pref
and communities.

Hi James,

The best path to me from Centurylink is: 3356 1299 20473 11875

The path Centurylink chose is: 3356 47787 47787 47787 47787 53356
11875 11875 11875

Do you want to tell me again how that's a reasonable path selection,
or how I'm supposed to pass communities to either 20473 or 53356 which
tell 3356 to behave itself?

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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