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Re: Networks ignoring prepends?
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 12:37:17 -0500
Apparently there is a conflict between what you want and what 47787 wants. As you both seem to be paying customers, you should probably ask 3356 to resolve that instead of us random internet folks.
Calling 3356 and saying "I know your global routing policy is to prefer a customer learned route over a peer route, but can you change that for me please?" probably won't see much success. On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 8:39 AM Alex Le Heux <alexlh () funk org> wrote:
Packets don't have customers, ISPs do. And in this case you're not acustomer of the ISP making the routing decisionIncorrect. I am a customer of 3356. A residential customer, not a BGP customer. I'm paying them to route my packets too, and they're routing them poorly.Oh, you should have said that right away, or perhaps I missed it. In that case it’s simple: Stop giving them money for bad service. By continuing to give them money you’re incentivizing them to continue breaking your internet, making you the architect of your own misery ;)Also incorrect: every packet in your network is linked to either one or two customers. Never more. Never less. Routing my packet via 47787 in this case serves neither of us: my Internet access is severely degraded and 47787 is charged money for a packet they need not have handled.Nonsense. 47787 is clearly telling 3356 they *want* to handle that traffic and even paying for the privilege. Apparently there is a conflict between what you want and what 47787 wants. As you both seem to be paying customers, you should probably ask 3356 to resolve that instead of us random internet folks.Fact is that all prepending does it provide a vague hint to other networks about what you would like them to do.Until they tamper with it using localpref, BGP's default behavior with prepends does exactly the right thing, at least in my situation.Try giving your money to someone who runs BGP with just its default settings and no policies, see how well that works out. Cheers, AlexRegards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
Current thread:
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends?, (continued)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Alex Le Heux (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Alex Le Heux (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Tom Beecher (Jan 22)
- RE: Networks ignoring prepends? Jeff Behrns via NANOG (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Tom Beecher (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Darrel Lewis (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Robert Raszuk (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Alex Le Heux (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Tom Beecher (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Jay Borkenhagen (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Chris Adams (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Niels Bakker (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Tom Beecher (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Chris Adams (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 23)