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NMAP Identity obscuring
From: "Cameron Palmer" <cameron_palmer () hotmail com>
Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:50:18 PST
I know we have seen the argument before, but the recent SysAdmin magazine has an article on Solaris security. They recommend changing some NDD parameters to obscure the identity of Solaris from nmap. They have some interesting points, which is essentially they aren't looking for that as the sole form of protection of the machine but merely make Solaris conform to the RFCs instead of having its own quirks that give away too much information. I would normally be dissuaded from security by obscurity arguments, but by taking out the things that make the OS unique and conform to RFCs you do raise the ante as it were. Additionally I've seeen some other good OS tuning parameters with NDD that help performance that are a good idea, like fixing your Quad card to having multiple MAC addresses instead of the single hostid. Apparently you can gain a 40% speed boost on a Checkpoint firewall. This came from the Checkpoint web site. They have a number of recommendations for security related changes.
Any thoughts? cameron. From: Oliver Friedrichs <of () securityfocus com> To: Ofir Arkin <ofir () itcon-ltd com>, Lance Spitzner <lance () spitzner net> CC: nmap-hackers () insecure org Subject: RE: firewalk meets nmap - TTL (tested) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 15:36:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0Received: from mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (mta1-pr) by sims1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0G3I00609XSQ25 () sims1 snfc21 pbi net> for palmer74@sims-ms-daemon; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 15:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from amy.insecure.org ([208.184.74.98]) by mta1.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0G3I000N7XQ0PL () mta1 snfc21 pbi net> for palmer74 () sims1 snfc21 pbi net; Sat, 04 Nov 2000 15:39:37 -0800 (PST)
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Return-path: <nmap-hackers-return-887-palmer74=pacbell.net () insecure org> Message-id: <10786F3AE30CD4118FAC00A0CC58F9F1015929@MAIL> X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Precedence: bulk Delivered-to: mailing list nmap-hackers () insecure org Delivered-to: moderator for nmap-hackers () insecure org Mailing-List: contact nmap-hackers-help () insecure org; run by ezmlm >Lance, we should automate this somehow. This is a cool thing. >But again correct configuration will prevent this from happening. This is a really neat idea. It should be easy to automate, if you add in some traceroute functionality to nmap to determine the hop where packets are being dropped (this would be the firewall), then you only need to specify an address on the internal network. I think nmap could use UDP/TCP ACK/ICMP traceroute functionality anyways. And while your at it, make it parallel, send out 32 packets with incrementing ttl's at the very start.. none of this 1 hop at a time slowness. - Oliver -------------------------------------------------- For help using this (nmap-hackers) mailing list, send a blank email to nmap-hackers-help () insecure org . List run by ezmlm-idx (www.ezmlm.org). _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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- NMAP Identity obscuring Cameron Palmer (Nov 05)
- RE: NMAP Identity obscuring Ofir Arkin (Nov 23)
- RE: NMAP Identity obscuring lamont (Nov 23)
- Re: NMAP Identity obscuring Dug Song (Nov 23)
- Re: NMAP Identity obscuring Cameron L Palmer (Nov 25)
- RE: NMAP Identity obscuring Mike Batchelor (Nov 26)
- RE: NMAP Identity obscuring lamont (Nov 23)
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- RE: NMAP Identity obscuring Oliver Friedrichs (Nov 23)
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