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party trick to shut up the non-believers


From: craigfreyman at gmail.com (Craig Freyman)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:55:55 -0600

My wife get's the same treatment. Using SET is the easiest way to make a
point to non-technical people. Between the site cloning and the java applet
method in set (which is still undetected by most AVs), you can grab their
attention.

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Chris Blazek <chris.blazek at gmail.com> wrote:

To try and convince my wife to be very careful of public networks I did a
little arp poison and cranked up webspy. I had her go into the other room
and pull up whatever website she wanted and then come and look at what I had
on my laptop. :)

I have folks telling me I'm just paranoid and overreacting. When I show
them a little mitm attack, they all see my point.

Another fun thing to do is load beef into a crafted web page. Have someone
visit it and use one of the tools in the framework.  :)






On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Robin Wood <robin at digininja.org> wrote:

On 4 May 2010 18:36, Larry Pesce <larry at pauldotcom.com> wrote:
He is, and I know of....I mean Bob knows of a setup similar to this.
I'll see if I can get Bob to share his properly sanitized Asterisk
config to do so.

That would be good.


- L



On 5/4/10 10:45 AM, Chris Clymer wrote:
Im assuming Mick is referring to Asterisk

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On May 3, 2010, at 11:37 PM, Michael McGrew <
mmcgrew1 at mail.csuchico.edu
<mailto:mmcgrew1 at mail.csuchico.edu>> wrote:

Michael,

I remember hearing about that software on a PDC episode. It has a
name, do you know what that is? It was either the name of the software
or they just gave the "attack" a catchy name.

Thank you

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Michael Douglas <
<mailto:mick at pauldotcom.com>mick at pauldotcom.com
<mailto:mick at pauldotcom.com>> wrote:

    I got a little late to the party... this is *not* a hack, but it
shuts
    everyone the hell up because it scares them.  And I've never had
any
    follow up questions

    Here's what you do.  It costs a few dollars (pounds in your case
    right?), but it's so worth it.  ssh into a server that's running
some
    form of VoIP software.  (skype can work for you i suppose, but I
don't
    know CLI for skype)  Setup a call group that has the phone number
of a
    good amount of people at the party... the more numbers you have,
the
    better.  Have the VoIP software call the group all at once (the PC
to
    phone rate is where you have to spend $) ... all phones ring at
the
    same time.   Even stranger, when they answer the call, they are
all
    talking to each other.  Warning: the effect is highly creepy.  I
    thought folks would think it was funny (cause it is!) but it
really
    freaked everyone out.

    That said, I tend to laugh off the "prove it" requests, unless
it's
    some hot girl... in which case I wake up from my pleasant dream
and
    remember there are no parties where hot ladies are asking anyone
to
    show 1337 skills.   ;-)

    - Mick


    On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Robin Wood <
    <mailto:robin at digininja.org>robin at digininja.org
    <mailto:robin at digininja.org>> wrote:
    > Thanks for all the suggestions, I think I like this one the
best, I
    > might set something up on a site so I can access it from my
    phone. Tie
    > this with an SMS service I've got that lets me specify the
sender
    > number I could have some fun. Email and SMS the person from
someone
    > else in the room.
    >
    > Robin
    >
    > On 3 May 2010 20:55, Andrew Ellis <
    <mailto:only.samurai at gmail.com>only.samurai at gmail.com
    <mailto:only.samurai at gmail.com>> wrote:
    >> A trick I've used for a while is keeping a protected email
spoofing
    >> form on my web server. That way when I'm asked to "demo" my
    skills, I
    >> can simply send the person an email from theirself or the like.
    >>
    >> This has the advantage of looking pretty cool to laymen and, as
    far as
    >> I know, isn't illegal.
    >>
    >> It's definitely not a "1337 hack" but it's a nice way to show
the
    >> types of things that can be done without getting in too much
    trouble.
    >>
    >> -Andrew
    >>
    >> On 5/3/10, Chris Clymer <
    <mailto:cclymer at gmail.com>cclymer at gmail.com
    <mailto:cclymer at gmail.com>> wrote:
    >>> Rather than a live demo, better tactic might be telling a
    story about
    >>> a vulnerability in joe sixpack terms.  The pizza coupon thing
    >>> (dominos?) a few months back is a good example.
    >>>
    >>> I see a lot of downsides to letting folks at a party pressure
    you into
    >>> a live demo.  You are basically allowing strangers to SE you.
     If you
    >>> show a successful demo, you just know the next question will
    come: so
    >>> can you hack into so-and-so's facebook account? ;)
    >>>
    >>> When you consider the potential for demo fail too, this is
    really a
    >>> lose/lose situation :(
    >>>
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    >>>
    >>>
    >>> On May 3, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Robin Wood <
    <mailto:robin at digininja.org>robin at digininja.org
    <mailto:robin at digininja.org>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Hi
    >>>> At a party the other day I was asked the normal question of
    what do I
    >>>> do for a living. I said security and kept it a bit vague but
was
    >>>> pressed so explained what pen-testing is and roughly what I
    do. I then
    >>>> got the challenge, prove it, prove you can hack a company.
    >>>>
    >>>> People would say to a dentist, prove you can do a filling but
    this
    >>>> person insisted they wanted a demo. I explained the
    legalities and
    >>>> finally fobbed them off and got away but it got me thinking,
has
    >>>> anyone got any good party tricks that they can pull in this
    kind of
    >>>> situation that give an instant wow but are easy to do and
    legal? Not
    >>>> quite legal but I was thinking if I knew any big sites with
XSS I
    >>>> could rewrite but none came to mind at that time.
    >>>>
    >>>> Robin
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