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Re: Email Policy Changes -- encourage im instead of email
From: teacher1st <teacher1st () bellsouth net>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:21:42 -0500
Hello People,The problem may be wrong technology. Perhaps in many instances IM should be used rather than email.
At the last company I worked we had a situation where an email was sent rather than an instant message.
Two problems were:- email with a very long threads and something "embarrassing" way down would be sent
- short, casual, unfiltered [can't think of a better work] emailsWe set up training program that, first of all, encouraged using Instant Messages and, second, discussed email etiquette.
Follow up showed the training worked. Best, teacher1st On 1/18/2011 12:57 PM, David Kovar wrote:
Greetings,This policy is becoming standard in a lot of corporations. I think the powers that be have more market research for their point of view than you can drum up for yours.-David On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Craig Freyman wrote:I agree that the policy is very bad and Bugbear is 100% correct. They don't understand the technology piece at all. However, we've fought it HARD and lost. I'm going to bring all these points up though, much thanks for your insight.On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Jack Daniel <jackadaniel () gmail com <mailto:jackadaniel () gmail com>> wrote:On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Bill Swearingen <hevnsnt () i-hacked com <mailto:hevnsnt () i-hacked com>> wrote: > I dont understand why you wouldnt want to comply with policy? > The reason the lawyers have made this decision is because of ediscovery. If > their is a policy (and technical restraints) to not keep stuff past 60 days, > then they cant be requested to discover email and documents older than that. > Sounds like you are looking for a good way of being fired! > $0.02 > Good point Bill, but I interpreted the request as trying to cover all the bases to help enforce the policy, and framed answers as such. That said, this is such a bad policy that it will be defeated. People are going to do their jobs, in spite of policy- you are much more likely to be disciplined or fired for not doing your job than you are to be disciplined for not following policy (at least in almost every biz I've ever dealt with) This shows it isn't just us security types who ignore the realities of business when crafting policy. The dangers of e-discovery damage would have to be insanely high for this to be in the best interest of the company as a whole. But, we security types ask for dumb stuff all the time, too. Jack _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com <mailto:Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com <mailto:Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com_______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
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Current thread:
- Email Policy Changes Craig Freyman (Jan 17)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Dave (Jan 17)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Bill Swearingen (Jan 17)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Craig Freyman (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Jack Daniel (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Craig Freyman (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes David Kovar (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes -- encourage im instead of email teacher1st (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes -- encourage im instead of email Bugbear (Jan 19)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Craig Freyman (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Jack Daniel (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Craig Freyman (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Bugbear (Jan 18)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Bigger Thomas (Jan 19)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Tim Krabec (Jan 19)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Craig Freyman (Jan 19)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Tim Krabec (Jan 19)
- Re: Email Policy Changes Craig Freyman (Jan 19)