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Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails?
From: Kevin Shaw <kevin.lee.shaw () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 14:44:35 -0500
I get requests like this that fall into two camps - the truly curious and the ones that assume I changed my last name from Mitnick and will do borderline or overt criminal activity for them. My answer to the first? I follow the "you don't learn to hack, you hack to learn". Often it's a technical person that already hacks - finding unique solutions to problems, coding that script that helps the admins do their job - I give them pointers to take it to the next level. And I always point them to places like Pauldotcom and your site, Adrian, because I know for those it is a desire to learn, not necessarily learn how to infiltrate computers - at least not after they lay eyes on the mound of paperwork and reports I have to write! For those with a dubious intent, however innocent they may think it is, I often turn the tables on them .. do you think it would be right to do something criminal? How would you feel if someone did that to you? And I have stories of being a victim and explain my job is to help deter, stop or even catch the bad guys. Then I go back to answer one. YMMV though. On Feb 20, 2011 2:30 PM, "Adrian Crenshaw" <irongeek () irongeek com> wrote:
Hi all, Many on this list run a blog/podcast/etc and I imagine like me you get a lot of "Teach me how to hack" or "do this for me" emails. How do you
handle
them? The categories I get can generally be broken down into: 1. Teach me how to hack (which is too broad to ever do). 2. I think my boyfriend/girlfriend is cheating on me, how can I spy on
them
(why would I want to get involved?). 3. Help me break into my neighbors/schools WiFi/Computer (Why would I help you do something illegal, and leave a subpoenable record in email?). 4. Do a bunch of free work for me as a favor and under dubious
expectations.
I had a guy recently say he wanted be to teach him how to track down spammers so he could sue them since he put a declaimer on his Craig's List posts that said people owed him money ($50,000, and without going to
court)
if they sent him spam, and various other outrageous demands. That one
first
got the response that I though he had unreasonable expectations, and when
he
email again I told him I was not interested and if I got another email
from
him he owed me $100,000,000. Needless to say he was not happy. I mailed
the
conversation to the list, but it got rejected, perhaps for being off topic or having too much personal info in it. 5. Questions about things I know nothing about, or that if I do know something about I've already put all I know in an article/video. These questions I normally just point to the best resource I know. My responses are usually: 1. You question is to vague and sorry, I can't teach individuals over
email.
2. Ignore them, especially it they used text speak in the email (ur =
your,
etc). 3. Point them at some other materials and say I don't know much on the subject. 4. Sometimes, if it is especially whacked, I may have a snarky response. I like to help people learn, but some people just want too much time, or
for
you to do all the work for them. What are your normal responses? How do
you
deal with these things? I don't want to seem like an ass for not helping people, but I'd rather speed my personal time doing other things. Thanks, Adrian
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- Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? Adrian Crenshaw (Feb 20)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? Kevin Shaw (Feb 20)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? Joel Esler (Feb 20)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? John Strand (Feb 20)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? Joel Esler (Feb 20)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? Mvharley2 (Feb 20)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? John Strand (Feb 20)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? Ben Jackson (Feb 22)
- Re: Dealing with "Teach me how to hack" emails? Joel Gunderson (Feb 22)