Re: ideas needed

[Bert Van Kets <mailing () vankets com>]

The whole reason I'm putting time is this thing is because I personally
believe children should be educated enough so they can be let loose in
the real world. The internet is part of the real world and should not be
shielded.

In my paper I motivate parents to communicate with their children and
put time in them. Children can not educate themselves; they must be
guided. Putting on blindfolds is not my idea of education. I see many
parents shielding their children because to them it's the easiest
solution with the least effort from them. Many times I have seen kids
brought up like that become very unstable teenagers.

Every time I hear InfoSec people talk about internet dangers I hear a
paranoid undertone and this is good as long as it remains an undertone
and not become the primary message. Sometimes it's best to just give the
info, step back and not keep repeating and pushing. A parent should be a
guide, not a forceful master. Repeating what should not be done only
draws attention.




On 22/07/2011 18:59, Mike Patterson wrote:
> On 2011/07/20 6:00 PM, CP Constantine wrote:
> > A good exercise for kids is sort of a re-work of the 1980's
> > dont-talk-to-strangers campaign. (which was basically, no matter how
> > much info they have that indicates they actually know you, still deny
> > trust). is getting kids to ask themselves, how much info about them
> > would a stranger have to know about them, before they might think this
> > person was actually a trusted family friend:- now put much less than
> > that online.
> One thing to be cautious of when trying to educate kids is the same
> thing that campaign tripped over. Turns out that kids aren't actually
> all that much endangered by strangers; parental kidnappings are far more
> common, as is abuse. Whoops.
>
> Something I see a lot (and this is a general comment inspired by yours,
> not an attack on yours) is ITSec folks getting *really* strident about
> OMG DO NOT SHARE ANYTHING EVER IT IS UNSAFE AND YOU WILL BE RAPED AND
> KILLED.
>
> Kids get messages like that a lot. About everything. They get
> overloaded, and tune you out. Hell, they tune you out anyway, but
> there's no reason to give them a real reason to do it. :-) So be
> moderate in how you present things.
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
> Pauldotcom mailing list
> Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com
> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
_______________________________________________
Pauldotcom mailing list
Pauldotcom () mail pauldotcom com
http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom
Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com