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Re: He is not evil, checked a site without authorization, found an issue...then what?


From: Sherif El-Deeb <archeldeeb () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 01:05:32 +0300

This SQLi does not need authenticated session, everything was done through
proxychains from a cloud VPS, good luck for them trying to trace that back.
Thank you a million for your worries :) really, thank you!.


On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 12:39 AM, Robert Wesley McGrew <
wesley () mcgrewsecurity com> wrote:

 Just make sure that he knows that if the "anonymous" report angers them
in the way that you fear, it will likely be a trivial matter for them to
review their logs and figure out what user has been poking around in that
specific feature.

--
Wesley McGrew

On Thursday, January 12, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Sherif El-Deeb wrote:

it started with the usual quotation mark, but to make sure it's a real
issue....well, I'm sure you know "that" feeling, again, no bad intentions
at all.

It's not just a "injection point, need to fix" type of report, it's a
detailed one, executive summary, injection point(s), affected parameters
and recommendations on how to fix.

So, It's going to be an anonymous report submitted using a throw-away
email account created through tor then... thank you guys for the advice, I
already had the feeling that this is how it is going to be.

your help is very much appreciated, needed to be sure that my advice to
him is going to be the closest thing to the right thing "Damn you
conscience, damn you!"

Sherif.


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 11:52 PM, mark cunningham <
markcunninghamemail () gmail com> wrote:

Depends how much "he" has done so far. If he stuck in a quotation
mark, got an sql error and reports that, no harm done imo but if he's
aimed a tool at it or started pulling out data already, then that's
just plain stupid (which i gather he has)

If he really wants to make things right while still covering his ass,
he could register an email address and use it as a point of contact to
inform the bank in case they have any further queries. Keep the
alternative email so the bank have some way to contact him. Provide as
much information as possible about what the bug is and how to fix it.
Don't just mention "injection point , need to fix". You should
probably highlight this with "Serious security hole" or the likes.

It's the right thing to do and i think he should really do it despite
the fact when you inform someone of this, they may start poking around
the log files in which case, they'll see exactly what he has done.

Had to keep going back and replacing "you" with "him" while writing
this whole email

Mark

On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Sherif El-Deeb <archeldeeb () gmail com>
wrote:
Hi all,

I have a friend "Bob" who found a vulnerability, (SQL injection, error
based
-> v.fast data dumping)  in a banking website that gave him access to all
the customers' details among many other things, he is not evil, and he
came
to me for advice:

1- He know he shouldn't have done the test in the first place without
authorization and he is afraid that he might get prosecuted if he
reported
it "happened before, right?".
2- He knows that this has to be reported because it leaves customer data
exposed, and he has to act fast.
3- He would very much like to get rewarded :) not necessarily by money, a
thank you letter will be just fine.

I told him if we couldn't figure out a way to make sure he won't get
prosecuted, He will just make the great sacrifice, be a good citizen and
anonymously report it, and the only benefit he will gain will be
sleeping at
night feeling little better about his self knowing that because of the
time
and efforts he spent finding and reporting the issue, thousands and
thousands of innocent people financial data are a bit more secure.

any advices?

Thanks in advance.
Sherif Eldeeb

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